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  • the shampoo making hair frizzy

    Posted by tattvas on September 9, 2018 at 4:09 pm

    hey guys… i m just trying to sort out how to fix this batch of 50% HONEY SHAMPOO. i wanted it to work as shampoo and conditioners.

    RAW HONEY - 50%
    Flaxseed extract gel- 4%
    hydrolised soy- 1%
    limonene- 0.5%

    Cocamide MEA 1%
    hydroxyethylcellolose- 1%

    Sles- 8%
    coco betaine- 5%

    edta- 0.5%
    sodium benzoate + benzyl benzoate- 1%

    hair comes out dry and frizzy after wash

    tattvas replied 5 years, 5 months ago 4 Members · 6 Replies
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  • gunther

    September 9, 2018 at 4:15 pm

    Try with water replacing honey to see if it makes any difference
    and try adding a silicone, preferably a water dispersible silicone for ease of formulating.

    Is HEC intended as a thickener?

  • tattvas

    September 9, 2018 at 6:03 pm

    @GuntherIs HEC intended as a thickener? ..yes

    i have dimethicone in stock.. but its not water soluble i think.. any suggestion regarding which silicone shd i use? 

  • belassi

    September 9, 2018 at 6:09 pm

    Limonene is a solvent, remove it.

  • em88

    September 10, 2018 at 6:27 am

    SLES and HEC should not be used together (based on my experience). 
    HEC 1% seems too much, and if you are using hot process (heating HEC at some point) should lead to depolymerization of HEC.

  • tattvas

    September 10, 2018 at 7:37 am

    @em88  .we wanted a thick product so end up using 1% though started with 0.2%…. we mixed it in glycerin first with cocamide mea then poured in lukewarm solution of shampoo along with 

  • tattvas

    September 14, 2018 at 5:43 pm

    @Gunther…i have arranged some peg 8 dimethicone.

    i have a doubt regarding the use of lipids in shampoos. adding a lipid makes me nervous because the outcome varies according the surfactant used and once the lipid is thr you are bound to use emulsifier too. but when i go to the hlb values it shoes sles a high HLB emulsifier . does that mean i have to pick only one emulsifier lower than the mean if calculated of lipid though they will contribute only 2-3 percent of total formulation.

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