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  • The first formula I ever made was………

    Posted by OldPerry on March 7, 2017 at 12:47 am

    It’s always interesting to learn about the experiences of other formulators here so I thought I’d ask a question everyone could answer.

    The first formula I ever made was a moisturizing shampoo formula.  

    It was a standard anionic shampoo but strangely included Myristyl Myristate as the pearlizing agent.  I think this was to get around the P&G patent which didn’t allow us to use Glyceryl Stearate.  I didn’t invent the formula. It was created by the guy who had my job before I was hired.  The formula also wasn’t stable.

    How about you?  What was the first formula you ever made?

    Soapily replied 7 years, 1 month ago 14 Members · 13 Replies
  • 13 Replies
  • belassi

    Member
    March 7, 2017 at 2:38 am

    The first thing I made was a knock-off of Ev & Crab’s hand cream. Nowadays I recognise that the emulsion system is insufficient, it only works because the carbomer stabilises it. It’s a really nice cream though.

  • johnb

    Member
    March 7, 2017 at 8:15 am

    The first thing I made was a supposed knock off of Brylcreem from a formulation I found in a boys book of practical chemistry. I was about age 14 and was lucky enough to have a local pharmacy (they were called chemists shops at the time) with a helpful pharmacist who obtained the ingredients for me.

    The resultant emulsion was quite successful but the resemblance to Brylcreem was minimal.

    Later, as a college student, I obtained a part-time job at the pharmacy where I learned a huge amount about formulation. In those days it wasn’t a case of the pharmacist doling out preformulated, prepacked items from a shelf, lots of medicines were actually made from scratch. It was also the days when prescriptions were handwritten in dog-latin in ounce (and fractions thereof) measurements - grains, mimims, scruples, drachms, ounces, pints etc. with all their associated strange symbols derived from alchemy and all designed to disguise from the patient what medication they were actually receiving.

  • Bill_Toge

    Member
    March 7, 2017 at 10:16 am

    the first batch I ever manufactured myself was 8 kg of Marks & Spencer peach foam bath, as part of a cost-of-product reduction exercise: they’d cut back the fragrance and surfactant levels slightly, and needed samples to make sure it was still acceptable to the consumer

    after that I made the five other variants in the range; after I started using a new lot of SLES halfway through the run I learned first-hand just how variable surfactant-based products can be in terms of pH and viscosity, even when all the materials are weighed out with rigorous accuracy

  • heraklit

    Member
    March 7, 2017 at 1:42 pm

    Before ten years I made my first batch of olive oil soap and before three years my first sulfate free unstable shampoo.

  • DRBOB@VERDIENT.BIZ

    Member
    March 7, 2017 at 4:38 pm

    First formula was a soap/syndet Bar using 70/30 Tallow/coconut oil soap with sodium tallow n-methyl taurate as lime soap dispersant.problems with cracking in soap dish made things interesting.Model similar to emulsion breaking as it needed a binding agent due to relative solubilities in water of STMT and soap.

  • crisbaysauli

    Member
    March 8, 2017 at 7:50 am

    I did colognes for a year as a newbie, i almost smell of cologne even if i sweat! :(. then moved forward to a facial scrub matching job where the client is very particular about matching the rose color of her existing emulsion scrub.

  • Bobzchemist

    Member
    March 8, 2017 at 7:11 pm

    The first things I ever made in the cosmetic industry were perfume dusting powders - highly fragranced talc/fragrance mixtures that were lightly colored, usually with some mica added. These had to be pulverised several times to get them to be free-flowing, and the pulveriser room was not well-ventilated - so the powder went everywhere. Nobody liked doing these, because at the end of the day, you would just reek of perfume, so the job always went to the lowest level - me.

    I always tried to schedule these batches in the afternoon, because if I did them in the morning, I wouldn’t be allowed into the cafeteria for lunch.

    My girlfriend at the time made me take most of my clothes off in the foyer and bag them up before she’d even let me into our apartment. Fortunately, a shower would wash it all off, or I might have had to sleep in the car.

  • chemicalmatt

    Member
    March 8, 2017 at 7:29 pm

    I was the batch validation and analytical chemist on record for the very first pilot batch of tolanaftate foot cream for OTC treatment of athlete’s feet. This was while working for Schering-Plough, which no longer exists.  To this day, whenever I see that product on the store shelves (all private label now; patent expired) I have a sense of nostalgia.

  • HelenB

    Member
    March 9, 2017 at 1:16 pm

    Hi all, it was actually, a “natural” toothpaste suitable for homeopathy, with fennel essential oil &  with Calcium Carbonate…. (20 years back) and as the company I was working back then did not have appropriate equipment, I used a mortar & pestle.  I still remember the pain….

  • GeorgeO

    Member
    March 9, 2017 at 11:41 pm

    Worked in the scale up lab, I think it was a body wash. I remember being told to spray everything with IPA to keep it “sterile”.

  • David

    Member
    March 13, 2017 at 2:38 pm

    Make a hair gel. Changed PVP K30 into the new (?)PVP K90 and increased the level.

  • Silvie

    Member
    March 14, 2017 at 11:29 pm

    The first thing I did alone was a chemistry experiment from a golden book. It was a real failure. The first thing I have formulated and done for myself have been a lot of soaps with Naoh and Koh. The best thing is that I have so many soaps that a large part of them have been used to raise funds for a colony of kittens in my neighborhood.

  • Soapily

    Member
    April 5, 2017 at 6:47 pm

    Here’s my face cleansing gel formula.

    Viscolam
    MAC 10
    10.00
    NAOH .500
    Sorbilen L .0100
    Glycerin .0100
    Allantoin .0100
    EDTA .0100
    Hương/perfume .100
    Phenochem NIB .800
    Triclosan .0100
    Menthol Crystals .0800
    DM1000 .0100
    SLES 5.00
    CAB 7.00
    H20 76.46
     Sum: 100.00

    http://www.soapily.net
    Soapily Skincare Cosmetic

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