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  • Sulphate Free Shampoo Separating

    Posted by SashaHayz on July 18, 2022 at 4:08 pm

     I mixed the SCI with CAPB until it forms a paste. Then I add the remaining ingredients. It starts to separate 2 days after making. Please any suggestions? 

    Water
    Decyl Glucoside 5%
    Cocamidopropyl Betaine 15%
    SCI powder 5%
    Castor oil 0.5 %
    Glycerin 5% 

    PEG 7 Glyceryl
    Cocoate

    Quaternized Honey/ Honeyquat 2%
    Dimethicone 1%
    Panthenol 1%
    Olivem 300 1%
    Fragrance 0.5%
    Preservative 0.5%

      

    SashaHayz replied 2 years, 2 months ago 4 Members · 6 Replies
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  • OldPerry

    Member
    July 18, 2022 at 4:15 pm

    To start, use less honeyquat, less panthenol, less glycerin, and get rid of the castor oil.

  • SashaHayz

    Member
    July 18, 2022 at 4:30 pm

    Perry said:

    To start, use less honeyquat, less panthenol, less glycerin, and get rid of the castor oil.

    Ok I will use less of those. Also Its suppose to be a castor oil shampoo so I have to use some amount, I will decrease castor oil to a small amount. Any other suggestions to stabilize the formula? 

  • chemicalmatt

    Member
    July 18, 2022 at 7:51 pm

    What @Perry said, but I suspect you may still need a rheology stabilizer in there anyway with that APG. Try hydroxymethylcellulose or polyaquaternium-10 or an acrylate copolymer. Also, Olivem 300 is redundant with PEG-7 glyceryl cocoate as a refatting agent. Choose one or the other and save some coin. 
      

  • ozgirl

    Member
    July 18, 2022 at 10:25 pm
    Can you substitute the SCI for Sodium Lauroyl Methyl Isethionate (SLMI)?
    SCI is not very water soluble and is preferred for solid products.
    SLMI is water soluble and is the preferred option for water based products.
  • SashaHayz

    Member
    July 18, 2022 at 10:46 pm

    What @Perry said, but I suspect you may still need a rheology stabilizer in there anyway with that APG. Try hydroxymethylcellulose or polyaquaternium-10 or an acrylate copolymer. Also, Olivem 300 is redundant with PEG-7 glyceryl cocoate as a refatting agent. Choose one or the other and save some coin. 
      

    I never had good luck using polyquat 10 in prior formulas it usually separates. For this formula what percent polyquat10 would u recommend and is there an order of addition /procedure u recommend ?

  • SashaHayz

    Member
    July 18, 2022 at 10:50 pm

    Currently don’t have that surfactant. Do you know if it would work well with Capb and decyl glucoside ? 

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