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  • Solubilizing a fragrance into dimethicone hair serum

    Posted by biochemist101 on July 15, 2017 at 6:20 am

    Dears, 
    please advise on how to solubilise a fragrance into a silicone. I have not done much research but it’s my fifth trial of adding different percentages of PEG-40 Hydrogenated castor oil with a fragrance first then adding the dimethicone or cyclomethicone but failed, it turns turbid and i need it to be crystal clear. thank you so much.

    Chemist77 replied 7 years, 4 months ago 5 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Chemist77

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    July 15, 2017 at 1:34 pm

    Ask your supplier to provide you Silicone compatible fragrances, PEG-40 Hydrogenated Castor Oil won’t do the trick here. How much fragrance you are trying to add?? In my experience we never went beyond 0.3% in most of the formulas and we had to be careful with our fragrance choice.

  • DRBOB@VERDIENT.BIZ

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    July 15, 2017 at 7:44 pm

    procetyl aws at 1.5:! ratio with fragrance may work.

  • crisbaysauli

    Member
    July 25, 2017 at 3:35 am

    @DRBOB@VERDIENT.BIZ procetyl aws is a water soluble surfactant. If there is no water in the formula, i think plain fragrance+silicone can provide the clear finished product you desire @biochemist101. I agree with @Chemist77, you should add fragrance in small increments to see up to what level the clarity can hold up.

  • biochemist101

    Member
    July 26, 2017 at 1:40 pm

    Ok, i will try and revert.

  • DRBOB@VERDIENT.BIZ

    Member
    July 26, 2017 at 9:25 pm

    Best bet is submit the base to perfumer and give him/her an in-use guidance concept with a cost per hundred weight of product based on fragrance you need.This way levels and cost can be balanced and neither you or they are restrained.

  • biochemist101

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    August 1, 2017 at 9:16 am

    thanks for reply.

  • chemicalmatt

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    August 1, 2017 at 9:59 pm

    Use C12-15 alkyl benzoate to solubilize the fragrance oil first (assuming it is miscible; most are) then disperse this into cyclomethicone, then slowly add the dimethcones and higher MW silicone derivatives. If it clouds, you may need to increase your cyclomethicone level at the expense of the others - or reduce the fragrance level. What CAN’T Finsolv TN do, I ask you?

  • Chemist77

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    August 2, 2017 at 1:20 am

    @chemicalmatt great stuff as usual and just in time. The same ester I tried to use @ 0.05% level to minimize whitening in my regular hydro-alcoholic clay. Seems the formulation turns little hazy and the whitening hardly been reduced. Could you suggest a way of adding it properly or it won’t go in this one. My formulation has ethanol denat., water, HEC, PEG 8, Propylene glycol, little alkali to neutralize and buffer the final pH and Al Chlorohydrate. 

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