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  • Small Homogenizer recommendations (for purchase)

    Posted by Newtoformulating on January 12, 2021 at 12:02 am

    Can I use a homogenizer to mix my pomade formula that contains Ceteareth-25? The overhead mixer creates too many bubbles and by hand is too slow. Thoughts?? Any help is greatly appreciated. 

    Newtoformulating replied 3 years, 3 months ago 4 Members · 7 Replies
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  • suswang8

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    January 12, 2021 at 1:10 am

    I assume you are using the overhead mixer at a very high speed?  (Otherwise, they usually don’t add much air.)

    It seems like you are asking (1) whether you are safe to use a homogenizer with this emulsifier, and then (2) for recommendations for a homogenizer?   I’m pretty sure the answer in this case is Yes to number one, but regarding number 2, I think you should provide additional details in order to get the best recommendations. What is your budget, what size preparations you want to create, etc.

  • Newtoformulating

    Member
    January 12, 2021 at 3:29 am

    @suswang8 I appreciate the response. Yes the overhead mixer is usually at a higher speed  because the blade is so small it doesn’t mix very well so I set it at a higher speed to mix better but in turn I get major bubbles. So I will be mixing small batches right now around 1500g. I saw one on amazon for a couple hundred dollars but the reviews said it does mix the contents in a 1500ml beaker well and thats the size I would be using. So to answer your questions are; around 1500g batches at a time and a few hundred dollars if thats even possible. Would a homogenizer be my best best or is it common to mix a batch that size by hand? Thanks again. 

  • suswang8

    Member
    January 13, 2021 at 12:53 am

    Can i ask if you have tried purchasing a larger/better blade attachment?

  • Newtoformulating

    Member
    January 13, 2021 at 4:11 am

    @suswang8 That’s definitely a thought 🤔I will try that! Thanks!

  • emma1985

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    January 21, 2021 at 1:43 am

    My homogenize does not work with products with any kind of viscosity. Most homogenizers are the same. So I would say no, homogenizer won’t work with a lotion base.

  • chemicalmatt

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    January 21, 2021 at 10:01 pm

    You should not need any homogenizer for those Edge Gel formulations. No sheer is needed. Why not obtain a KitchenAid Mixer (planetary type) like the home bakers use? On the lowest speed they do a fine job without adding too much air. They make 3kg at a time, and the professional ones handle up to 6kg.  You can purchase one at most home product retail stores. Perfect for carbomer gels and high viscosity creams too - lots of torque to play with.

  • Newtoformulating

    Member
    January 22, 2021 at 4:45 am

    @emma1985 and @chemicalmatt thanks for the suggestions! Definitely will try!

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