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    Posted by JD on August 30, 2014 at 10:04 pm

    Hi,

    I found this body wash I love and now want to make something similar. A little stumped with saponified. Do you think they purchased the saponified ingredients? Anyone know of a supplier or method to achieve the saponification portion of this ingredient list?

    Neem aqueous extract, liquid Shea butter soap (water (and) saponified Shea butter (and) saponified coconut oil), Cocoamidopropyl betaine, lavandula oil,sodium chloride

    Thanks

    JD replied 9 years, 10 months ago 5 Members · 6 Replies
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  • MakingSkincare

    Member
    August 31, 2014 at 6:11 am

    It looks like they saponified the shea butter and coconut oil with KOH (made liquid soap) and then added the neem extract, betaine, lavender and salt.

    If you’d like to learn how to make liquid soap I’d recommend this group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/liquid.soapmakers/
  • Chemist77

    Member
    August 31, 2014 at 7:44 am

    Agreed with MakingSkincare, calculate the SAP values of Shea Butter and Coconut Oil, saponify and there you are with the soap. Disperse in water and you have so and so % aqueous solution of Shea butter and coconut soap (maybe with little added preservative). And that my friend has been used as one of the ingredients here I suppose.

  • Bobzchemist

    Member
    September 1, 2014 at 1:15 pm

    Generally speaking, we say saponified (reacted into a soap) when the reaction is conducted in-situ, i.e., in the process of making the product. In that case, you have the option of declaring the ingredients that went into your product (oils and/or fatty acids PLUS sodium or potassium hydroxide) or the reaction products that are the chemicals actually existing in your product (potassium cocoate, potassium shea butterate, for example)


    The ingredient listing you posted is WRONG for a US product.

    If you buy a soap as a raw material, on the other hand, which is saponified by the manufacturer, you have NO CHOICE about how you list the ingredient. Sodium stearate, potassium cocoate, etc. is the ONLY correct listing.
  • nasrins

    Member
    September 2, 2014 at 2:21 am

    Bob the letters are so tiny

  • Bobzchemist

    Member
    September 2, 2014 at 10:14 am

    Sorry, my computer seems to change fonts at random. Is this better?

    Generally speaking, we say saponified (reacted into a soap) when the reaction is conducted in-situ, i.e., in the process of making the product. In that case, you have the option of declaring the ingredients that went into your product (oils and/or fatty acids PLUS sodium or potassium hydroxide) or the reaction products that are the chemicals actually existing in your product (potassium cocoate, potassium shea butterate, for example)

    The ingredient listing you posted is WRONG for a US product.

    If you buy a soap as a raw material, on the other hand, which is saponified by the manufacturer, you have NO CHOICE about how you list the ingredient. Sodium stearate, potassium cocoate, etc. is the ONLY correct listing.
  • JD

    Member
    September 3, 2014 at 9:13 pm

    Thank you All for your input.

    I rather make  vs purchase from a vendor. I have not made anything with KOH yet but it seems worth it in the end to learn another craft.
    I checked all the links provided..thank you!

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