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  • Replacement for Xanthan Gum (low foam) - CMC, HEC, HPMC?

    Posted by levita on February 7, 2024 at 8:27 am

    Hey there, I need to use low amounts of (about 5% active) surfactants (SLS + Cocamidopropyl Betaine or just SLS) and would like to achieve form of thick liquid - like dishwashing liquid viscosity.

    I am also using MGDA and pH of about 5-6.

    I have tried with Xanthan Gum - it thickens well but kills the foam and bubbles.

    I have tried it with salt and/or sodium sulfate without xanthan gum. It foams much better, but I find it less reliable. I would love to use any powder thickener/gum, but without that feeling of the foam being “glued down” like in Xanthan Gum.

    I am thinking about cellulose variants - CMC, HEC, HPMC.

    I haven’t had a chance to try them yet - difficult to get.

    Do you have any suggestions? Would that cellulose variants won’t be killing the foam and bubbles much?

    Thank you!!!

    paprik replied 3 weeks, 4 days ago 2 Members · 1 Reply
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  • paprik

    Member
    February 7, 2024 at 11:36 am

    Hi,

    Hydroxypropyl methylcellulose (HPMC) is great for surfactant systems. It actually boost and stabilises the foam. Proper processing method is important.

    Good luck!

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