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  • Replacement for polyglyceryl-4 caprate (available in EU?)

    Posted by simona on March 2, 2015 at 4:18 am

    I am formulating a curly hair product and I need to find a replacement for polyglyceryl-4 caprate. Any suggestions - even better if the manufacturer is in the EU? On UL Prospector I can only find it in the US (Evonik).

    Thanks in advance! 
    Anonymous replied 7 years, 9 months ago 5 Members · 5 Replies
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  • Bobzchemist

    Member
    March 2, 2015 at 2:55 pm

    I thought Evonik (formerly Degussa) was a German company?

  • simona

    Member
    March 2, 2015 at 3:04 pm

    Well, my access to request a sample from Evonik was I existent so I think I only assumed they were from the US ;!

    I found however one other supplier and I just contacted them. But just in case this does not work, what coul I use as a substitute in hair care formulation?

  • David

    Member
    March 2, 2015 at 7:44 pm

    UL Prospector also restricts my access sometimes - however I just call or Email the supplier directly and they usually are very helpful.

  • Bill_Toge

    Member
    March 3, 2015 at 8:25 am

    as @Bobzchemist said, Evonik are a German company, and they don’t like dealing with small quantities directly; to get their products you’ll need to contact their distributor in your area

  • simona

    Member
    March 3, 2015 at 9:29 pm

    Yes, I already realized that I am one of the small fish and I still need to rely on other suppliers for a bunch of ingredients! 

    I already found an italian web site which sells it, so need to check my budget as shipping is not cheap and I feel like a kid in the candy store! 
  • Anonymous

    Guest
    May 7, 2015 at 2:21 pm

    The company Hydrior in Switzerland offers also Polyglyceryl-4 Caprate. They offer two qualities with slightly different HLB values: HYDRIOL PGCH.4 and HYDRIOL PGCL.4. The minimum order quantity is 25 kg. Hydrior produces also other polyglycerol esters (see http://www.hydrior.com).