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  • Replacement for Allantoin

    Posted by arachne013 on March 17, 2018 at 2:14 am

    I’ve been trying to find a replacement/substitute for Allantoin. I know where to buy it, but wanted to know if there was something similar I would already have that would have the same properties/effect

    Tee17 replied 2 weeks, 6 days ago 6 Members · 20 Replies
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  • Microformulation

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    March 17, 2018 at 3:53 am

    Why?

  • arachne013

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    March 17, 2018 at 6:54 am

    I was trying to duplicate a face primer I had purchased for a ridiculous amount of money & wanted to if I could make it myself for a little less money

  • Microformulation

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    March 17, 2018 at 10:13 am

    But why replace the Allantoin? It is not terribly expensive, easily available from retail sites and any alternatives, if effective, would be likely more expensive.

    • Tee17

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      April 2, 2024 at 6:02 am

      Hi 👋🏽

      Can you please suggest your go to suppliers for allantoin and others you may use? Newbie here and I just purchased some that came with a “White Pomegranate Powder” Label instead of Allantoin. The supplier is insisting it is Allantoin and that was done to avoid shipping delays. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

  • arachne013

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    March 17, 2018 at 11:58 am

    True, but I was just wondering if there was something similar that I already had….im being cheap, that’s all. But having said that, I have to order more ingredients so I’ll just add on the Allantoin too.

  • arachne013

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    March 17, 2018 at 12:19 pm

    I’m also being super impatient, and didn’t want to pay a $3 shipping fee for something that costs about $2. I don’t want to purchase it from a website that will sell it for super-cheap and with a free shipping fee…they’re usually located in China and I’m not sure of their quality standards

  • OldPerry

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    March 17, 2018 at 1:51 pm

    What benefits are you getting by having Allantoin in your formula?  It’s possible you don’t even need it.

  • arachne013

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    March 17, 2018 at 2:49 pm

    I think it was meant to prevent chapping because it also contains (I’m assuming) a decent amount of Retinol; however, at also says it contains Vitamin E and Soybean oil; I’m assuming b/c Allantoin is listed relatively towards the beginning of the list of ingredients that it plays some kind of major role.

  • OldPerry

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    March 17, 2018 at 4:23 pm

    Perhaps you could share the entire ingredient list.

    There are better things for preventing chapping.

  • arachne013

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    March 17, 2018 at 5:14 pm

    Water, Propylene Glycol, Caprylic/Capric Triglyceride, Polysorbate 20, Butylene Glycol, Zea Mays (Corn Starch), Persea Gratissima (Avocado) Oil, Glycerin, Dimethicone, Retinol, Magnesium Ascorbyl Phosphate, Colloidal Oatmeal, Totrienol, Hydrolyzed Hyaluronic Acid, Ceramide NP, Acetyl Hexapeptide-8, Linoleic Acid, Allantoin, Phytosteryl Canola Glycerides, Palmitic Acid, Oleic Acid, Glycine Soja (Soybean) Oil, Hydroxypropyl Cyclodextrin, Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Juice, Triolein, Caprylyl Glycol,Acrylates/C10-30 Alkyl Acrylate Crosspolymer, Xanthan Gum, Lecithin, Stearic Acid, Maltodextrin, BHT, BHA, Phenoxyethanol, Sodium Hydroxide, Potassium Sorbate.

  • Microformulation

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    March 17, 2018 at 8:46 pm

    Working with Retinol and MAP is a tricky advanced Formulator skill. This is not likely a DIY or home product.

    For example, most Formulators already know that in a Cosmetic product Allantoin is used at 0.5% or lower concentration. Knowing that makes the LOI easier to dissect.

    What is your experience level, if I may ask?

  • arachne013

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    March 17, 2018 at 9:52 pm

    I’d say I’m more intermediate than advanced

  • arachne013

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    March 18, 2018 at 7:05 am

    Speaking  of Allantoin, I came across a lip tint that includes this. The ingredients are

    WATER, DIPROPYLENE GLYCOL, 1,2-HEXANEDIOL, CITRIC ACID, SODIUM
    CITRATE, ALCOHOL, PENTYLENE GLYCOL, BUTYLENE GLYCOL, FRAGRANCE, PYRUS MALUS
    (APPLE) FRUIT EXTRACT, YELLOW 6 (CI 15985), PRUNUS AVIUM (SWEET CHERRY) FRUIT
    EXTRACT, RED 27 (CI 45410), PUNICA GRANATUM FRUIT EXTRACT, ALLANTOIN,
    DIPOTASSIUM GLYCYRRHIZATE, HONEY EXTRACT, PHENOXYETHANOL, SODIUM HYALURONATE,
    ETHYLHEXYLGLYCERI

    I was going to forgo the fruit extracts for some other kind of flavoring and two products I already have already have basically all the ingredients….do you think I need the Allantoin in my own version?

  • Doreen

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    March 18, 2018 at 9:21 am
    @Microformulation Working with Retinol and MAP is a tricky advanced Formulator skill. This is not likely a DIY or home product.

    Agreed. And yet I see many homecrafters messing around with these.
    You would safe much more money if you left these out instead of the allantoin.
    The fruit extracts in the LOI that you mention aren’t there for flavouring by the way. You’ll likely just taste the licorice salt that’s in it (which is sweet).

  • arachne013

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    March 18, 2018 at 9:38 am

    Ok, that makes sense…Thanks guys!!!

  • Doreen

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    March 18, 2018 at 9:50 am

    * I mean you would saVe much more money ;-) 

    You’re welcome!

  • OldPerry

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    March 18, 2018 at 12:53 pm

    @arachne013 - You could create a formula with only the following ingredients that would perform the same as the one you listed.

    WATER, DIPROPYLENE GLYCOL, 1,2-HEXANEDIOL, CITRIC ACID, SODIUM CITRATE, ALCOHOL, PENTYLENE GLYCOL, BUTYLENE GLYCOL, FRAGRANCE, YELLOW 6 (CI 15985), RED 27 (CI 45410), PHENOXYETHANOL, ETHYLHEXYLGLYCERIN

    I believe in both product ingredient lists that you’ve posted Allantoin is simply a claims ingredient.

  • arachne013

    Member
    March 18, 2018 at 2:38 pm

    Awesome! Thanks, I’ll definitely try that out! The less ingredients, the better! :)

  • Anonymous

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    April 27, 2018 at 5:49 am

    Why not use actual comfrey extract - the plant source for allantoin? You might be able to track down a standardised extract which would stipulate the amount al natural allantoin in the extract and incorporate as much of the extract as necessary to achieve the amount of allantoin required. And no crystallisation issues! 

  • Doreen

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    April 27, 2018 at 7:03 am

    @Foreveryoung
    The replacement here is to save costs, not crystallisation issues and I don’t think comfrey extract is cheaper than allantoin.

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