Home Cosmetic Science Talk Formulating Probiotics in skin care - what is your opinion?

  • MarkBroussard

    April 14, 2017 at 1:40 pm


    The ingredient in Crisal Soap is Lactobacillus Ferment, not live bacteria … it is the components of the bacterial cell wall that have been sonicated to release the contents and then, most likely, any remaining solids are filtered off.

  • Bill_Toge

    April 14, 2017 at 9:20 pm

    @David living bacteria in cosmetic products are not actually forbidden, but there is a well-defined COLIPA standard for microbial quality, and enforcement agencies over here crack down on bacteria- or fungus-blighted products a lot harder than they do in the USA

  • David

    April 16, 2017 at 1:22 pm

    @eisen , no it just means that what they are using is dead-  anything else is “forbidden” - or more accurately as @Bill_Toge pointed out - has to pass the COLIPA standard for microbial quality.

  • chemnc

    April 16, 2017 at 2:54 pm

    Regarding anhydrous formulations and live bacteria, huge risk also. Remember that water condensation on the surface is common, and it would be all the bugs need to start growing. 

  • AVisotsky

    July 5, 2017 at 5:19 pm

    If you check amazon, hundreds of water based probiotic sprays there. Here is one of them: https://www.amazon.com/LiviaOne-Topical-Spray-Organic-Probiotics/dp/B00UNS8GOG/ref=sr_1_3_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1499275042&sr=8-3&keywords=probiotic%2Bspray&th=1

    Proprietary organic probiotic blend in an enzyme enriched substrate: Lactobacillus Acidophilus, L.Rhamnosus, L.Salivarius, L.Casei, L.Plantarum, Lactococcus Lactis, Streptococcus Thermophilus, Bifidobacteruim Bifidum, B.Lactis, B.Infantis, B.Breve, B.Longum; Made from water and a propretary blend of three organic grasses.

  • MarkBroussard

    July 5, 2017 at 5:35 pm

    Here’s the problem I have with product such as this.  Note the sleight of hand in the language … essentially claiming that their product is “ideal” for a variety of medical conditions “according to our customers”, but then stating that the statements have not been evaluated by the FDA and that the product is not intended to treat, cure or prevent any diseases.

    Our 12 strains of symbiotic probiotics spray can help the skin stay balnced, calmer and more resisitance to aging. * 

    According to our customers, this is ideal for people who suffer from rosacea, rashes, scrapes, cuts, staph-type infections, nose, eye or ear infections, athlete’s foot, jock itch, ringworm, and yeast infections.  

    LiviaOne Topical Probiotics can benefit as:

    • Protective Shield
    • Antimicrobial Properties
    • Calming Effect
    • Natural Skin Balance
    • Dental Caries
    • USDA Certified Organic - to assure quality and safety
    • Made in the USA to produce the best quality of product available
    • Multi-Strains includes: Lactobacillus Acidophilus, L. Rhamnous, L. Salivarius, L. Rhamnosus, L. Casei, L. Plantarum, Lactococcus Lactis and Casei; Bifidobacterium Infantis, Longum along with Streptococcus Thermophilus all in a enzyme enriched substrate.  
    Ingredients: Derived from a proprietary blend of probiotics in an enzyme-enriched substrate, water and a proprietary blend of 3 organic grasses.

    These statements has not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any diseases.

  • AVisotsky

    July 5, 2017 at 6:07 pm

    Unfortunately many cosmetic products are marketed with unsubstantiated drug claims. Unless they are “curing cancer” FDA just don’t have time to follow up. 
    Marketing aside,  do you suppose these are actually dead or are they taking a legal risk?

  • MarkBroussard

    July 5, 2017 at 6:14 pm

    Here’s the other issue … the most common species found on human skin microbiome are:

    • Staphylococcus
    • Micrococcus
    • Corynebacterium
    • Brevibacterium
    • Dermabacter
    • Malasezzia

    Note that the bacteria in this product are primarily found in the human gut, not on the skin.  So, if you wanted a product that would be effective on the skin, why would you use gut probiotic bacteria instead of skin microbiome bacteria?  The skin and gut are completely different environments.

  • MarkBroussard

    July 5, 2017 at 7:37 pm

    I have no idea, but I think a company that makes drug claims on a cosmetic product has absolutely no credibility and I would not trust anything they say.

  • Microformulation

    July 5, 2017 at 7:46 pm

    “Unfortunately many cosmetic products are marketed with unsubstantiated drug claims. Unless they are “curing cancer” FDA just don’t have time to follow up.”

    If you follow recent FDA actions, this is an incorrect statement. The FDA has been following up on numerous lines which make false claims for their Cosmetic products. On one hand, the FDA does not have the staff to follow up on every line, but with the increased usage of online sales, the FDA does have to ability to identify and censure the offenders. It has been increasing of late.

  • jeremien

    July 6, 2017 at 3:50 pm

    the french brand Gallinée sell cosmetic containing probiotic, prebiotic and lactic acid. I understand that they preserve their products thanks to relatively low pH (4.5), and high active ingredient amount (such as lactic acid) … and cream are produced under GMP

  • belassi

    July 6, 2017 at 4:53 pm

    The terminology is plain incorrect. A probiotic is something that encourages bacterial life. Inulin for instance is correctly described as a probiotic. A product  that contains live bacteria should be called a ‘biotic’. 

  • OldPerry

    July 6, 2017 at 7:57 pm

    I would call a product that contains live bacteria…contaminated.  ;)

  • Chemist77

    July 7, 2017 at 7:27 pm

    Think @Perry sums up it best

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