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  • Please I need help to check if my phases are properly arranged as a beginner

    Posted by busola on June 16, 2024 at 5:49 am

    PHASE. %w/w. Ingredient name<div>

    A. Rose hydrosol

    A. 0.20. Sodium phytate

    A. 2.00. Propylene glycol

    A. 1.00. Ethoxydiglycol

    B. 2.00. Ecogel

    B. 5.00. Propanediol 1,3

    C. 5.00. Oliveoil peg-7 esters

    C. 1.00. C12-15 alkyl benzoate

    C. 2.00. Jojoba wax ester

    D. 0.80. Germal plus

    D. 0.50. Whitening oil

    D. 0.20. Allantoin

    D. 2.00. Liquid Hyaluronic

    D 1.00 Vegetable glycerin

    D. 0.10. Matcha powder

    D. 0.30. Tocopherols


    Please help as I don’t want to waste ingredients. Thank you all in advance.

    The formula is a whitening cream.

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    busola replied 4 weeks ago 4 Members · 10 Replies
  • 10 Replies
  • jemolian

    Member
    June 17, 2024 at 7:56 pm

    The phases look reasonable, but the matcha may cause some issues, so you can consider taking it out if you find that it oxidizes too quickly.

  • busola

    Member
    June 18, 2024 at 7:32 am

    I am thankful. God bless you.

  • Paprik

    Member
    June 18, 2024 at 2:00 pm

    Please double check limits for ingredients [Germal plus for example]

    • busola

      Member
      June 18, 2024 at 2:23 pm

      Oh thank you. Please I would be highly grateful if you put me right on the exact amount I should use. Thank you in advance.

      • Paprik

        Member
        June 18, 2024 at 2:56 pm

        Usage for Germall Plus (powder) is 0.05 - 0.2%.

        For Liquid Germall Plus it is up to 0.5%.

        I have never worked with the powder form, so cannot say how good it is. And depending where you live, Liquid Germall Plus is not allowed in body products in EU, but is in USA. And cannot be used in aerosols in USA, but can in EU. I believe. 😀 It is always better to double check and confirm. 🙂

        • busola

          Member
          June 18, 2024 at 5:13 pm

          I am so grateful. Thank you for putting me right. Meanwhile if there are any other adjustments please help I don’t want to waste ingredients. I am open to corrections. Thank you so much.

          • Paprik

            Member
            June 18, 2024 at 6:26 pm

            If you want to become good, you will need “waste” some ingredients.

            In the end it is not really wasting. You are gaining experiences with each formula.

            Your formula is already too complex. You should really start slow with a few ingredients, learn how they behave, what they can achieve, what they can handle, what destroys them, how to process them correctly, regulatory limits, etc .. It takes time!

            If you put 15 ingredients in you will never know what caused what in case there is a instability or other issue.

            Start with good old water as hydrosol is expensive and can mask some smells.

            Those would be my tips for now. Happy formulating 🙂

            • busola

              Member
              June 19, 2024 at 4:16 am

              Thank you all the way 🙏. You are so right. There’s nothing really like waste. It’s called experience and I also appreciate the fact that you put me right in this manner. Thank you. God bless. I’m splitting my formula right away and starting with few.

  • dkg92

    Member
    June 18, 2024 at 7:23 pm

    The way i arrange my formulas are as follows for an emulsion

    Phase 1 -water phase ; water soluble ingredients that are not heat sensitive

    phase 1a premix your gums/thickeners with your humectants to create slurry then add to ph1 while mixing to avoid clumps.

    Phase 2 oil phase ; your waxes,butters, oil, emollients ;

    phase 3 cold phase preservative along with extracts or heat sensitive materials

    it takes trial and error when formulating to gain experience so would need to experiment with procedure methods, percentages and materials to figure out what works for your formula

    • busola

      Member
      June 19, 2024 at 3:57 pm

      Thank you so much. I sincerely appreciate you too. I ll go by these methods also. Mostly definitely and also work with what @Paprik ik put me right to. God bless you all immensely.

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