Home Cosmetic Science Talk Formulating Phenoxyethanol and sodium benzoate incompatibility

  • Abdullah

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    May 2, 2021 at 12:54 am

    @Pharma @PhilGeis any comments on this.

    Lotioncrafter says: Benzoic acid is inactivated by non-ionic surfactant.

    Makingcosmetics says: Phenoxyethanol should not be used in formulas containing HE-cellulose or non-ionic surfactants. 

    One another website said phenoxyethanol is deactivated by highly ethoxylated surfactants. Does this include SLES or ALES?

    Thanks in advance

  • PhilGeis

    Member
    May 2, 2021 at 1:44 am

    I’d run an AET to see.

  • Abdullah

    Member
    May 3, 2021 at 12:34 am

    @PhilGeis sure but if there is any known incompatibility it is better to know and change that i ingredient or preservation system. 

  • PhilGeis

    Member
    May 3, 2021 at 10:38 am

    There is potential.  Think you’re referring to info in Steinberg’s book.  Dave’s info is excellent and does report there is potential. compromise.

  • Abdullah

    Member
    May 4, 2021 at 1:11 am

    @PhilGeis im am referring to information in makingcosmetics website about phenoxyethanol and sodium benzoate incompatibilities. 

    can you tell me the book name or the info? 

    I already decided to replace HPMC with guar gum because of it’s incompatibility with phenoxyethanol in shampoo to stabilize pearlizer EGDS. 

  • PhilGeis

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    May 4, 2021 at 11:17 am

    Their info prob came from Dave Steinberg’s book - Preservatives for Cosmetics.  This is a very good book.  https://www.amazon.com/Preservatives-Cosmetics-David-C-Steinberg/dp/193263312X/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=steinberg+preservatives&qid=1620126997&sr=8-4

  • Abdullah

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    May 6, 2021 at 12:22 am

    @PhilGeis thanks

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