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  • One of my favourite essential oils

    Posted by mikethair on April 10, 2025 at 6:58 pm

    Vetiver essential oil with its wild beauty and fiery temperament provides a fragrance blend and products with warmth and sensuality, turning them into something comforting.

    The photo here shows the distillation of vetiver, a great testament to the temperament of this essential oil.

    In 2006, I used Vetiver in my shampoo formulation. I sold a lot of it globally until 2024.

    Email: mikethair@gmail.com

    mikethair replied 11 hours, 18 minutes ago 4 Members · 10 Replies
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  • MaidenOrangeBlossom

    Member
    April 10, 2025 at 8:29 pm

    Its very underappreciated for what it does. Its a must have.

    • Graillotion

      Member
      April 11, 2025 at 1:00 am

      How are 196 random, unvetted chemicals….on anyone’s ‘must have list’. No thanx!

      I’m a little dull…which of those 196 should I consider….a must have?

      GC_VetiverEO

      • This reply was modified 1 day, 13 hours ago by  Graillotion.
      • mikethair

        Professional Chemist / Formulator
        April 11, 2025 at 1:21 am

        It’s a matter of how you manage these chemicals. That’s why formulation is such an underappreciated craft.

      • MaidenOrangeBlossom

        Member
        April 11, 2025 at 8:30 pm

        that’s frightening! But one reason why I stopped using most essential oils in most of my products. After my last eczema flare, it scared the bejesus out of me. The science is not there yet.

        • Graillotion

          Member
          April 11, 2025 at 8:47 pm

          They are the most skin hostile ingredients in all of cosmetics. And just AWFUL for those with any skin maladies. Just a cacophony of irritants and allergens.

          If you sell a product with these ingredients…. the least you can do is put the number for poison control on the product.

          It is the only group of things put into cosmetics, that require being run through a toxicity screen before using. I think beginners don’t like that kind of language…so they have gotten creative with the name of the toxicity screen….and call it something laughable like…. EO Calculator. 😅

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          • MaidenOrangeBlossom

            Member
            April 11, 2025 at 9:03 pm

            When you describe it like that it’s very easy to understand. I think dermatologists do a disservice when they say they don’t know but don’t recommend it for eczema. Had I not experienced skin issues like this, I still would be using them. Ironically I resolved some skin problems with essential oils but it was playing russian roulette. The more you use it, the more you’re likely to develop allergies, not less likely. I solely use it for aromatherapy now or lightly masking. One drop for 150ml of product and even then I am very hesitant. So I’ve marketed my products as sensitive so that not having a scent won’t hurt sales. Its incredible how heavily everything is scented. For wash off products or hair care, I am not as vigilant but eventually, none of my products will have any scent at all. I only added pineapple to my hair serum because the oat turns it an ugly yellow so its just marketing and one drop for 10 8oz bottles.

          • mikethair

            Professional Chemist / Formulator
            April 11, 2025 at 11:27 pm

            With respect, I can think of a few synthetics that are more hostile than EOs, which have been around for quite a long time and are well-researched and documented. The same can’t be said about synthetics.

            Formulation using EOs requires a well-educated and experienced formulator. I formulated from 2006 until 2024, exported globally, and never had any issues. And I was backed up with a fully staffed on-site chemical/microbiol testing laboratory.

        • mikethair

          Professional Chemist / Formulator
          April 11, 2025 at 11:14 pm

          I disagree. The science is there, it’s just that people don’t understand it or lack the capacity to understand.

      • mikethair

        Professional Chemist / Formulator
        April 12, 2025 at 3:35 am

        Ok, when you formulate and manufacture products, and ship them globally for 18 years, you learn stuff. In fact a lot of stuff. One thing that I learnt over this period was that there was nothing wrong with these products and with all the safeguards I took, allergens were not an issue. The products sold very well, with zero complaints.

        And by the way, do you have comparable experience and qualifications do you have? Would you like to share it here?

  • ketchito

    Member
    April 11, 2025 at 6:40 am

    It’s very candid to instead of a commercial fragrance for which you know the risky chemicals in it and their concentration (aka “allergens, which are detailed in the allergen declaration), you choose a distillate for which you have compounds whose identity is uncertain at all (like “compound MW=192”, “”compound MW=222”, “aromatic compound”, “compound MW=220”, etc.) or that you only know their chemical family (like “alkyl benzene”, “sesquiterpene”, “terpenic compound” or isomers without mentioning which one it is), for which there is no safety information. I mean….

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