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  • oil base Shampoo

    Posted by UsmanAli on June 25, 2019 at 10:17 am

    is anyone have any idea about oil based shampoo 
    i want to make a shampoo which give as oily feel after washing hair.

    mikethair replied 5 years, 3 months ago 10 Members · 30 Replies
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  • ngarayeva001

    Member
    June 25, 2019 at 11:10 am

    Are you referring to co-washing?

  • Gunther

    Member
    June 25, 2019 at 3:54 pm

    All shampoo surfactants remove oil from hair.
    So you can only:
    A. Co-wash as @ngarayeva001 suggested
    B. Formulate a very mild shampoo that removes little oil from hair
    C. Use a post-shampoo conditioner or hair treatment that restores oils.

  • UsmanAli

    Member
    June 26, 2019 at 8:19 am

    thanks for your suggestion 
    can you guide me more about co-wash

  • ngarayeva001

    Member
    June 26, 2019 at 11:49 am

    Co-wash is a fancy word for washing hair with a conditioner instead of shampoo. It might work for very dry scalp and hair (I read it’s ok for 4B/4C hair types), but it’s not really washing.

  • UsmanAli

    Member
    June 27, 2019 at 4:46 am

    ok thanks @ngarayeva001

  • Nubian

    Member
    July 27, 2019 at 6:19 pm

    I made an oil shampoo 2years ago you can try out. It’s a high foam shampoo that leaves hair clean and soft. Here’s the formulation;

    Plantapon AF 56.4

    Soybean Oil 21

    CCT 15

    Castor Oil 5

    Herbal Extract 0.5

    Hydrolyzed Protein 1

    Sodium Benzoate 0.5

    Antioxidant 0.1

    Fragrance 0.5

     

    Method of manufacture 

    1. Add the following well;
    1. Plantapon AF, Soybean Oil, CCT, Castor Oil & Fragrance 
  • Pre mix the following until uniform
    1. Herbal extract, Hydrolysed Protein, Antioxidant & Sodium Benzoate
  • Add to surfactant batch and mix well
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  • Pharma

    Member
    July 27, 2019 at 7:13 pm

    That sounds more like an emulsion/cream than a shampoo.

  • Nubian

    Member
    July 27, 2019 at 7:25 pm

    @Pharma nope it’s not. It’s an oil shampoo. Looks and feels like an oil on contact with skin. Foams when water is added to it. See image below.

  • Pharma

    Member
    July 27, 2019 at 8:00 pm

    Interesting!

  • belassi

    Member
    July 27, 2019 at 10:04 pm

    See BASF’s formula here. (UL Prospector)

  • OldPerry

    Member
    July 28, 2019 at 5:49 am

    High foam? I’m skeptical. How does the foam compare to a sulfate shampoo?

  • Nubian

    Member
    July 28, 2019 at 6:06 am

    @Perry this is a sulfate shampoo. Plantapon® AF is a mixture of alkyl ether sulfate, citric acid ester of ethoxylated fatty alcohol and nonionic emulsifier. Read about it here https://www.ulprospector.com/documents/1312918.pdf?bs=804&b=91858&st=20&r=eu&ind=personalcare

  • Nubian

    Member
    July 28, 2019 at 6:09 am

    @Belassi spot on. 

  • ngarayeva001

    Member
    July 28, 2019 at 6:17 am

    I heard that there are materials that allow making high performance shampoo with huge amount of oils. It sounds very interesting but they are not sold at DIY size quantities (1lt).

  • OldPerry

    Member
    July 28, 2019 at 6:19 am

    @Nubian - I was asking about how the formula you posted compares to standard (non-oil containing) shampoos. When you said “high foaming”, I was wondering about that comparison.  I’ve not found oil containing formulas to be high foaming relative to non-oil containing shampoos.

  • Nubian

    Member
    July 28, 2019 at 6:26 am

    @Perry performance is strikingly the same.

  • Nubian

    Member
    July 28, 2019 at 6:28 am

    @UsmanAli you can also look at Marlinat 242/90 MC by Sasol Performance Chemicals. I just found they take long to respond to sample requests.

  • OldPerry

    Member
    July 28, 2019 at 7:13 am

    @Nubian - Interesting. 

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    July 28, 2019 at 5:52 pm

    That sounds like a new category in the hair industry…you should pursue it more…oil shampoo is a great idea.  I have very dry hair, but wash to clarify my scalp due to thinning hair.  I hate how my hair feels after shampooing.  

  • ngarayeva001

    Member
    July 28, 2019 at 6:38 pm

    I am actually surprised it’s not available at DIY market because most homecrafters love the idea of mixing shampoo with oil. I see people posting formulas attempting to incorporate huge amounts of oil into a shampoo and asking why it separates probably once a week here. @Nubian, is it difficult to process/requires special equipment?

  • mikethair

    Member
    July 30, 2019 at 8:34 am

    We saponify coconut oil to make a shampoo product. The amount of oil remaining can be controlled via the saponification reaction, or adding oil after saponification.

  • EVchem

    Member
    July 30, 2019 at 12:55 pm

    @ngarayeva001 at upwards of 50% in the formula though it would get used up quick right?

    We actually had a sample on hand so I tried something similar:
    Plantapon AF               55
    CCT                            14.5
    Argan Oil                     18
    Rosemary EO               0.5
    Castor Oil                    11
    Euxyl PE 9010 (Phenoxyethanol/ Ethylhexylglycerin) 1

    There was foam but it was  on the smaller side, a little creamy (sorry I am not very experienced with cleansers so my vocab is lacking). I attached a picture, not sure if that helps or what the proper method for foam testing is

  • ngarayeva001

    Member
    July 30, 2019 at 3:21 pm

    I agree, it’s clearly doesn’t foam well. Could it differ depending on oils I wonder..

  • belassi

    Member
    July 30, 2019 at 5:13 pm

    Yes, thanks very much for posting the photo. Unimpressive. I’d want a LOT more foam than that.

  • Nubian

    Member
    August 1, 2019 at 9:57 am

    @ngarayeva001 it’s quite easy to prepare. I used an overhead stirrer with a paddle attachment. 

    @EVchem that’s the foam I got when tested washing my hands. The results are much different on curly hair or on a shower/bath luffa. Here’s an image of the foam. 

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