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  • Need help regarding chemical

    Posted by Makoto on December 30, 2023 at 9:54 am


    Can anyone tell me in liquid matte lipstick what can I replace in place of bentone gel…..

    Or what can be replaced in place of disteardimonium hectorite….

    Bentone gel has cyclopentasiloxane, disteardimonium hectorite, propylene carbonate….but I am not able to find disteardimonium hectorite anywhere….🙏🙏 Thanks ❤️

    #color cosmetics #formulation

    fazlina.jalaludin replied 2 weeks, 5 days ago 3 Members · 3 Replies
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  • chemicalmatt

    January 3, 2024 at 8:58 am

    @Makoto That ingredient is supplying virtually all the yield value (suspension) to your formula and few lipid dispersible materials can match its yield value. However silica or more specifically silica dimethyl silylate offers similar but not same suspension. Processing is a bear: heating and high shear mixing for 90 minutes before adding any pigments or minerals. That is the great value of those Bentone Gels, Elementis already did the difficult job for us!

  • Makoto

    February 20, 2024 at 5:36 am

    Ok…. thank you for reply…solved that issue…can you tell me why my liquid lipstick is not smudge proof no matter how much trimethylsiloxysilicate i give…

    • fazlina.jalaludin

      April 30, 2024 at 5:13 am

      Maybe if you post your formula here, we could see what the problem is.

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