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Need custom formula skin care with probiotics
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@probioticqueen, just use buttermilk. It is quite high in lactic acid and you will see an effect.
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This whole concept of “Probiotics” in cosmetic products is shear, utter nonsense. You simply cannot, under any circumstances, keep microbial cultures alive in an aqueous product for more than 72 hours. After that, it becomes a contaminated mess of dead bacterial cells. With no source of energy, the bacteria will simply die off.
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You mean, there is no value in all these probiotic yoghurts?
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Completely different situation. Yogurts are fermented products that contain a source of nutrients and they are kept refrigerated.Far different from a water-based cosmetic product containing no nutrients that is sitting on the shelf at room temperature.
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I want to get back to the original question for a moment.
There are two ingredients on the market that will allow you to market “probiotic” claims in your skin cream. The fact that it’s all puffery and mostly nonsense is irrelevant - the ingredients make any number of claims which can transfer to a product that uses them.To me, the easiest and most cost-effective way to do this is to select a contract manufacturer that is large enough to have its own R&D people, and negotiate a deal that includes your ownership of the formula, and any IP associated with it.If you are insistent on having a cosmetic chemist formulate this for you as a consultant first, we have a list at the top of the discussions, and the national SCC maintains a list at http://www.scconline.org/referrals/cat/consultants/ If I were you, I’d try to talk to as many consultants as possible. Consultants get paid in different ways, and they’re not always completely open about it - some have paid relationships with certain contract manufacturers, and they get a commission if they steer your business to them. Someone who has significantly lower than average prices may have an arrangement like this - or they may be semi-retired, and just consult for the fun of it. It’s wise to check. -
I can report of the successful implementation. A contract manufacturer was not needed, I would like to thank the In Cosmetics. During the fair in NYC last September they provided free-of-charge sessions at the Formulation Lab – a purpose-built laboratory complete with benches and a range of equipment.
Ww tested the idea of the lyophilised bacteria but wanted to avoid parabens. The solution was simple: Avoid water and sugars which are food for bacteria. The formulation was based on the mixture of lactic acid producing lypohilisate in inert cyclosilicone. Intead of hyaluronic acid as a moisturiser we used glycerine and to exclude water we even added silica gel. To minimize the access of moisture, we decided to use a pumpable spray container.
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Very good, sounds like an unusual product.
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What are the esthetics of this product?
Is there a difference in the cosmetic effects of the product both with and without the lactobacilli?
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The idea was to make something usefull as after-sun.
Yogurt is a known remedy which brought me to try the sample which I got during the In Cosmetics.
It worked well on the sun burned skin.
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