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Natural/ecocert alternative to Polyacrylate Crosspolymer-6?
I love Polyacrylate Crosspolymer-6 since my creams feel so light and easy to apply. But since this polymer is a bit “disputed” - is there any ecocert substitute? Xanthan, guar, algin - all of them are more like “slime”
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I don’t know what you’re talking about. I did a search to find the claims which you mention but all I found was multiple sources which claimed that the product was completely safe. As far as I can tell, there is nothing “disputed” about polyacrylate crosspolymer-6.
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You might try a cellulose gum (e.g. VIVAPUR) but probably not. When you formulate “natural” you often can’t make products that work as well as standard cosmetics. Using a blend of synthetic and natural ingredients just results in superior products, at least from a technical standpoint.
But you can search through their database to see if you can find something. http://www.cosmos-standard-rm.org/verifmp.php
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HEC (hydroxyethylcellulose), hmw hyaluronic acid, or a hyaluronic acid crosspolymer, not sure if they will match the feel. Natzam is right about safety, but my guess is you want ingredients that don’t sound ‘scary’ to people.
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I don’t think you can get Sepimax Zen’s performance from any natural alternatives. It is hard to get the same performance even from other synthetic materials. It’s a superstar.
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I will opdate you if I find replacement - It is plastic in sepimax zen! https://www.beatthemicrobead.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Red-List_new_ECHA.pdf?fbclid=IwAR0qV__A6wE8s_msY6lYMevsWOoqncVYr2Ez2pmciA-3hpBAkSWS5I6DZ-k
look at nr 301
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Lots of great ingredients in that list.
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@tinas & @ngarayeva001 - there are lots of raw material suppliers on that list who would object to their ingredients being labeled as “microplastics”
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Perry - is this list not “credible”? If not - why?
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@tinas - This statement, “Products on this list have been found to contain ingredients which are commonly considered to be microplastic ingredients…” is not correct. They have simply listed every synthetic polymer.
Microplastics specifically refer to particles, the smallest of which is 1.6 micro meters. Ingredients like Acrylates Copolymer, Carbomer, Dimethicone and PVP do not make particles that size. These ingredients at worst would be considered “nanoplastics.” It’s an exaggeration to say that “nanoplastics” represent a significant hazard in the environment. They don’t, at least according to the experts. https://www.sapea.info/topics/microplastics/
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Thank you, Perry. I was already scared that these environmental groups will try to ban Aristoflex soon. That would be a personal tragedy for me
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ngarayeva001 said:…I was already scared that these environmental groups will try to ban Aristoflex soon…They’re certainly conspiring already, working on their evil plan to ban EVERYTHING thy don’t like and which is not 100% pure, immaculate, sustainable, fair-trade, vegan, and so on!
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@Pharma - The thing is that I’m on their side and share their goal of having a clean environment in which all organisms can thrive and survive. Unfortunately, environmental groups seem to rely on emotional arguments rather than scientific ones when defining the problem & solutions.
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Maybe I am too cynical but cosmetic industry causes much less damage than many other and they would bring more value if focused on more serious stuff. Hands off acrylates! ?
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