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  • MY LEAVE- IN CONDITONER IS STICKY

    Posted by tianaloveorganics on May 19, 2021 at 12:22 am

    Hey everyone so I recently wrote a formulation and I tested it and it has a sticky feeling the ingredients are

    water 
    aloe Vera juice
    marshmallow root extract 
    slippery elm extract 
    flaxseed extract 
    panthenol
    btms-50
    cetyl esters 
    baobab oil
    kukui nut oil
    meadowfoam seed oil
    sunflower oil
    soybean oil 
    optiphen plus 
    fragrance

    and also in the jar it looks like its separating any idea about the 2 problems???

    @Perry

    tianaloveorganics replied 2 years, 10 months ago 2 Members · 3 Replies
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  • OldPerry

    Member
    May 19, 2021 at 1:20 pm

    The answer depends a bit on how much of the ingredients are in there but I’ll venture to guess.

    1.  Too sticky - The following things make it sticky if you use too much. Aloe, Marshmallow root, flaxseed.

    2.  Separating - you are trying to mix oils and water without a suitable emulsification system.

    In truth, this formula has way too many ingredients. When you make a formula you should start with as few ingredients as you can to make a viable product. Why, for example, are you adding both sunflower oil and soybean oil? They have overlapping fatty acid compositions. That means if you used only one of them there would be no difference in your product. From a functional standpoint, those oils are all pretty much the same. Start with one or two that are the most different.  

    Keep it simple.  Simple means as few ingredients as you can use to get the performance you want.

  • tianaloveorganics

    Member
    May 25, 2021 at 3:12 am

    Perry said:

    The answer depends a bit on how much of the ingredients are in there but I’ll venture to guess.

    1.  Too sticky - The following things make it sticky if you use too much. Aloe, Marshmallow root, flaxseed.

    2.  Separating - you are trying to mix oils and water without a suitable emulsification system.

    In truth, this formula has way too many ingredients. When you make a formula you should start with as few ingredients as you can to make a viable product. Why, for example, are you adding both sunflower oil and soybean oil? They have overlapping fatty acid compositions. That means if you used only one of them there would be no difference in your product. From a functional standpoint, those oils are all pretty much the same. Start with one or two that are the most different.  

    Keep it simple.  Simple means as few ingredients as you can use to get the performance you want.

    Thank you so much I really appreciate it wow I never knew aloe made a product sticky and I’m using it the marshmallow root, and flaxseed at very high percentages

    When you say “ you are trying to mix oils and water without a suitable emulsification system.” can you please elaborate I’m not really sure what ur saying 

    before this formula had about about 30 ingredients and I cut it down to 15 so I will definitely cut it down more because I will be saving more money and ur right the product will still work the same 

  • tianaloveorganics

    Member
    June 4, 2021 at 5:42 am

    Perry said:

    The answer depends a bit on how much of the ingredients are in there but I’ll venture to guess.

    1.  Too sticky - The following things make it sticky if you use too much. Aloe, Marshmallow root, flaxseed.

    2.  Separating - you are trying to mix oils and water without a suitable emulsification system.

    In truth, this formula has way too many ingredients. When you make a formula you should start with as few ingredients as you can to make a viable product. Why, for example, are you adding both sunflower oil and soybean oil? They have overlapping fatty acid compositions. That means if you used only one of them there would be no difference in your product. From a functional standpoint, those oils are all pretty much the same. Start with one or two that are the most different.  

    Keep it simple.  Simple means as few ingredients as you can use to get the performance you want.

    hey Perry I just wanted to updated u so I kept the btms-50 (5%) and added betherinoum chloride at (2.5%) do you think that will stop the separating?

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