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  • Make a clear gel with low pH level

    Posted by Faustin on January 26, 2021 at 5:51 pm

    hello, my name is Faustina from Indonesia, I am very amateur in terms of formulations … I want to ask what gelling agent is good for making clear gel with low pH, I have tried HEC but it’s not like in journals and others forums that said HEC can dissolve without bulking and make clear gel. 

    If it is true, why is it that my HEC solution is not clear and has so many bubbles there, and what can i do with that? 

    Benz3ne replied 3 years, 3 months ago 9 Members · 12 Replies
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  • Faustin

    January 26, 2021 at 5:52 pm

  • zacchaeus

    January 27, 2021 at 7:10 am

    Hi. Yes, hec cannot make clear gels. You may opt to use Sepimax Zen, it is a good polymer, and produces clear gel. 

  • Benz3ne

    January 27, 2021 at 7:59 am

    +1 for other options. Carbomers are popular nowadays and give clear gels.
    HEC is cloudy, for sure, although it’s worth noting there are different types (described to me as E-type, F-type, which made me think of marques of Jaguar cars), with them having different characteristics e.g. for ethanol incorporation.

    Of course, the more you add the cloudier the resulting gel will likely be. There are also higher viscosity HEC/HPMC/EC’s that you could use less of to have a similar resulting viscosity.

    @zacchaeus‘ suggestion is good also.

  • Faustin

    January 27, 2021 at 5:53 pm

    @Benz3ne ah I’ve tried carbomers but it didn’t work, because the carbomer can’t get to a low pH level. Thanks ben for your informations ^^

    @zacchaeus hmm, I’ve never heard of that even for the INCH name .. let me find and check first .. thanks for the input ^^

  • mhart123

    January 28, 2021 at 1:05 pm

    what pH are you aiming for?

  • Abdullah

    January 29, 2021 at 3:59 am

    What is the percentage?

    My HEC is completely clear at %0.5

  • Dr Catherine Pratt

    January 29, 2021 at 11:46 am
    What you just showed us is pretty clear or translucent, it may become clearer if you leave overnight.
    One of the better gel makers I have tried for clarity is EMT-10 by sepinov.
  • ngarayeva001

    January 29, 2021 at 10:29 pm

    EMT10 is cloudy as well and it’s isn’t as electrolyte resistant as Zen. Zen is the best option when clarity and resistance to low ph is important.

  • Faustin

    January 30, 2021 at 3:35 pm

    @Abdullah ah but i need high viscosity formulation ^^

    @”Dr Catherine Pratt” yes i had tried it, i leave it overnight but just the bubbles that disappear

    @ngarayeva001 yesss finally i can get it in olshop, in indonesia zen is very2 rare and expensive…. but omg im so love it, i had try HPMC, carbomer, HEC but this one is that one i search for <3
    Thanks for your input  @zacchaeus

  • Danger

    February 1, 2021 at 3:39 am

    Hi @Faustin
    Sepimax Zen is suitable for low pH. You can contact Ms Aswinda in Megasetia. 

  • elaine

    February 2, 2021 at 3:43 pm

    How to prevent color fading or discoloration of clear gels?

  • Benz3ne

    February 2, 2021 at 3:54 pm

    elaine said:

    How to prevent color fading or discoloration of clear gels?

    It would benefit you to start your own thread instead of interrupting someone else’s.

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