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  • Leave in conditoner ingridents

    Posted by tianaloveorganics on March 5, 2021 at 1:46 am

    hey everyone I wanted to know if some of the ingredients in my product isn’t necessary and if that’s too much

    1) water 
    2)aloe Vera juice 
    3)panthenol 
    4)honey 
    glycerin
    silk amino acids
    marshmallow root extract 
    slippery elm extract 
    flaxseed extract 
    polyquaternium 10 
    btms-50 
    cety alcohol
    ceterayl alcohol
    cety esters 
    baobab oil 
    kukui nut oil
     avocado oil 
    meadowfoam seed oil 
    moringa oil
    babassu oil 
    daikon seed extract 
    sunflower oil
    palm oil
    soybean oil 
    optiphen plus 
    fragrance

    @Perry

    tianaloveorganics replied 3 years, 1 month ago 4 Members · 8 Replies
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  • ozgirl

    Member
    March 5, 2021 at 2:06 am
    The only things that are necessary are
    Water
    BTMS-50
    optiphen plus
    Reduce your oils to 1 or 2 you definitely do not need different 9 oils.
    Aloe and honey are bug food so leave these out.
    Add your extracts individually and see if there is any perceivable difference (if not leave them out).
    You probably don’t need cetyl alcohol and cetearyl alcohol. Try each one to see which gives you the feel/viscosity you need.
    Adding so many ingredients like this is just throwing money away.
  • tianaloveorganics

    Member
    March 5, 2021 at 2:17 am

    ozgirl said:

    The only things that are necessary are
    Water
    BTMS-50
    optiphen plus
    Reduce your oils to 1 or 2 you definitely do not need different 9 oils.
    Aloe and honey are bug food so leave these out.
    Add your extracts individually and see if there is any perceivable difference (if not leave them out).
    You probably don’t need cetyl alcohol and cetearyl alcohol. Try each one to see which gives you the feel/viscosity you need.
    Adding so many ingredients like this is just throwing money away.

    Thank you so so so much because this was really helpful i was stressing myself out cause my mind is saying more is better and truth is that’s not always the case and yes ur right because i barley have money to buy these ingredients much less to waste!!! what do you think about the polyquaternium-10 and cetyl esters??

  • ozgirl

    Member
    March 5, 2021 at 2:33 am
    I haven’t tried cetyl esters so I can’t really comment on that.
    Polyquaternium 10 might add some additional benefits that BTMS doesn’t but you should just try it with and without Polyquaternium-10 and see if there is a perceivable difference.
  • tianaloveorganics

    Member
    March 5, 2021 at 2:39 am

    ozgirl said:

    I haven’t tried cetyl esters so I can’t really comment on that.
    Polyquaternium 10 might add some additional benefits that BTMS doesn’t but you should just try it with and without Polyquaternium-10 and see if there is a perceivable difference.

    thank you so much I took ur advice and this is what I have now 

    water 
    btms-50
    optiphen plus
    fragrance
    polyquaternium-10 
    cetyl esters
    marshmallow root extract
    flaxseed extract
    slippery elm extract 
    glycerin 
    silk amino acids 
    baobab oil 
    kukui nut oil 
    meadowfoam seed oil 
    sunflower oil 
    soybean oil
    if i should make some changes to this too let me know I’m open to ur advice and I’m going to listen

    and also as you said I’m going to try one with cetyl alcohol, cetaryl alcohol and so on…..

    thank you and so sorry to ask all these questions but i just need some help!!

  • abdullah

    Member
    March 5, 2021 at 6:03 am

    ozgirl said:

    I haven’t tried cetyl esters so I can’t really comment on that.
    Polyquaternium 10 might add some additional benefits that BTMS doesn’t but you should just try it with and without Polyquaternium-10 and see if there is a perceivable difference.

    May I ask what additional benefits pg10 has over BTMS?

  • tianaloveorganics

    Member
    March 5, 2021 at 6:36 pm

    Abdullah said:

    ozgirl said:

    I haven’t tried cetyl esters so I can’t really comment on that.
    Polyquaternium 10 might add some additional benefits that BTMS doesn’t but you should just try it with and without Polyquaternium-10 and see if there is a perceivable difference.

    May I ask what additional benefits pg10 has over BTMS?

    Polyquaternium-10 is a high-performing multitasker used to fight frizz, improve hair manageability, and provide defined and bouncy curls. 
    and u cant pass 2% for the usage rate so I don’t know if there’s going to be a difference 

  • 1Armand2

    Member
    March 6, 2021 at 1:55 am

    What is BTMS?
    Thanks

  • tianaloveorganics

    Member
    March 6, 2021 at 2:08 am

    1Armand2 said:

    What is BTMS?
    Thanks

    BTMS-50, or Behentrimonium Methosulfate is a vegetable based conditioning emulsifier. It can be used to emulsify cosmetic formula’s (meaning it helps water and oil mix) 

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