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  • Keratin addition post formulation

    Posted by shuchi on November 11, 2021 at 2:44 pm

    I have made a baych of leave on conditioner. I have missed out on adding keratin. Can i now add it and if yes, how could i do it? Waiting eagerly for some expert guidance please. Thanks in advance. 🙏🏼😊

    shuchi replied 2 years, 6 months ago 2 Members · 6 Replies
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  • shuchi

    Member
    November 11, 2021 at 2:44 pm

    Oops!! Sorry about the typos. Typing while travelling.

  • OldPerry

    Member
    November 12, 2021 at 4:36 am

    what ingredients are in your formula?

  • shuchi

    Member
    November 12, 2021 at 4:56 am

    @Perry
    Phase A
    D/w                                 87.10%
    Aloe vera gel                    1.00%
    Polyquat 7                        0.50%
    Glycerine                           0.50%
    Guargum                           0.25%

    Phase B

    Cetostearyl alcohol         0.50%
    Cetyl alcohol                    1.00%
    Glycol stearate                 0.50%
    Stearic acid                       0.50%
    BTMS 50                            3.00%
    Argan oil + jojoba oil        0.30%

    Phase C
    Dimethicone                      2.00%
    D panthenol                       1.50%
    Vitamin E oil                       0.30%
    Keratin                                1.00%  (missed out)
    Fragrance                           0.05%

    Citric  acid           1 gm
    NaOH 1 M soln   13-15 drops

    Observation
    Frizz control - good
    Detangling    - can be better
    Slippery feel  - missing the keratin effect

  • shuchi

    Member
    November 12, 2021 at 5:00 am

    @Perry
    Will it alter the pH or the performance in anyway if added the keratin now? Kindly advise on improvement techniques to achieve the slippery feel and the detangling without glitches. Thanks 🙏🏼😊

  • OldPerry

    Member
    November 12, 2021 at 3:06 pm

    Since this is a water soluble ingredient that you add after the creation of the oil in water emulsion, you may be able to still post add the keratin.  No, it shouldn’t alter the pH much. 

    In truth, keratin doesn’t have much impact on product performance. Especially if you have Dimethicone & BTMS in the formula. 

    I personally think your formula is too complicated and bloated with unnecessary ingredients.  For example, panthenol, keratin, aloe vera gel & vitamin e oil are not doing much in your formula. If you accidentally forgot these ingredients, you shouldn’t expect much performance difference.

    The ingredients that matter for performance in your formula are
    Dimethicone & BTMS.  With 2% dimethicone you’re not going to see much effect from the oils in your formula.  Also, the Polyquat 7 or the Guar will have an effect but you don’t need both. They do the same thing.

  • shuchi

    Member
    November 12, 2021 at 10:32 pm

    @Perry
    Many many thanks for thr clarification and advice Perry. 🙏🏼😊

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