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  • Is silicone “imitable”

    Posted by janele on May 13, 2019 at 3:39 pm
    People who want “natural” products don’t want silicones in their creams.
    Clinique has a cream that contains silicone as a second ingredient. Is this texture/fell possible without silicones?
    Water, Cyclopentasiloxane, Glycerin, Butylene Glycol,
    Dimethicone, Cetyl Ethylhexanoate, Squalane, Disteardimonium Hectorite,
    PEG / PPG-18 / 18 Dimethicone, Lauryl PEG-9 Polydimethylsiloxyethyl
    Dimethicone, Ahnfeltia Concinna Extract, Olea Europaea (Olive) Fruit
    Extract, Caffeine, Whey Protein / Lactis Protein / Protéine Du
    Petit-Lait, Cholesterol, Sodium Hyaluronate, Petrolatum, PEG-150,
    Sucrose, Pyridoxine Dipalmitate, Linoleic Acid, Tocopheryl Acetate,
    Citric Acid, Polysilicone-11, Propylene Carbonate, Glyceryl
    Polymethacrylate, PEG-8, Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Extract, Triticum Vulgare
    (Wheat) Bran Extract, Pentaerythrityl Tetra-Di-T-Butyl
    Hydroxyhydrocinnamate, Palmitoyl Hexapeptide-12, Sodium Citrate, Sodium
    Hexametaphosphate, Chlorphenesin, Phenoxyethanol.

    janele replied 4 years, 11 months ago 4 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Sibech

    Member
    May 13, 2019 at 3:44 pm

    ,"y":325,"w":492,"h":19,"abs_x":384,"abs_y":1318}”>In a word. No.

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    ,"y":344,"w":0,"h":18,"abs_x":384,"abs_y":1337}”>

    ,"y":363,"w":492,"h":76,"abs_x":384,"abs_y":1356}”>In a few more words; You can get a very close approximation, but usually with a mixture of other ingredients (alkanes of various sort for instance) but they are much more expensive and you will likely never find a 1:1 substitute.

  • janele

    Member
    May 13, 2019 at 4:39 pm

    Thank you!

  • OldPerry

    Member
    May 13, 2019 at 5:08 pm

    Agree with @Sibech - One of the great myths about natural formulas is that you can make them better (or even as good) as standard products.

    You can’t.

    Cosmetics are not natural. There are no moisturizing lotion plants or body wash bushes. 

    Silicones were invented to improve upon the technology that was around at the time. (hydrocarbon oils) When you formulate without silicones it’s like you are going back in time to when technology was not as good.

  • janele

    Member
    May 13, 2019 at 5:22 pm
    Thank you very much. I completely agree with you, I wanted confirmation by the experts.
    Hannah
  • Bill_Toge

    Member
    May 13, 2019 at 8:30 pm
    on the other hand, Seppic have a range of vegetable derived alkanes which are exceptionally pure, and physically similar to volatile silicones (non-polar) - in my experience they can be used as a like-for-like substitute
    they’re the EmoGreen and EmoSmart range
  • janele

    Member
    May 14, 2019 at 12:13 am

    Thank you!

  • Sibech

    Member
    May 14, 2019 at 7:34 am

    @Bill_Toge Yes - I quite like the EmoGreen products as well, but even there I found a need to mix the L15 and L19 to get a closer approximation to D5 in terms of volatility/silicone-oil-feel.

    Specifically, I was doing a hair serum - and well, D5 always worked wonders there.
  • janele

    Member
    May 15, 2019 at 1:18 am

    Very useful information. Thank you!

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