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  • Increasing the slip/glide in Deep Conditioner formulation

    Posted by JennyB on May 19, 2017 at 1:00 pm

    Hello

    I am quite new to formulating and have made few deep conditioners however they do not have the slip that I want for my hair ( I have African textured hair). I was wondering if anyone could provide some advice on how to increase the Slip in my conditioner formulation below:

    Water- 79.5 %
    Cetaryl Alcohol- 4%
    BTMS- 3%
    STEARAMIDOPROPYL DIMETHYLAMINE -3%
    Avocado Oil- 3%
    Broccoli Seed -3%
    D-pathanol- 1.5%
    Hydrolysed Wheat - 2%
    Preservative (PCG)- 1%
    creatorhealer2020 replied 4 years, 2 months ago 8 Members · 10 Replies
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  • johnb

    Member
    May 19, 2017 at 1:09 pm

    It may improve things if you neutralise/slightly acidify the stearamidopropyl dimethylamine. I suggest about 1% lactic acid.

  • DRBOB@VERDIENT.BIZ

    Member
    May 19, 2017 at 2:44 pm

    Try 1% silicone dimethicone or D4 D5—-also low level of Hydroxyethylcellulse should help—your call!

  • markbroussard

    Member
    May 19, 2017 at 10:04 pm

    Isoamyl Laurate

  • pepe

    Member
    May 22, 2017 at 7:56 am

    Using dimethicone or dimethiconol mixtures, enhance the performance of your conditioner by giving slippery effect.

  • JennyB

    Member
    May 22, 2017 at 10:42 am

    Thanks @ DRBOB@VERDIENT.BIZ  and @pepe but Im trying to avoid Silicones, so looking for alternatives to the- I should have mentioned in my original post.

  • JennyB

    Member
    May 22, 2017 at 10:46 am

    @johnb Thanks, I didnt mention here that I neutralise with citric acid to get he PH to about 4.5 at the end, would this not be sufficient?

    @MarkBroussard Thanks, will have a look into this ingredient

  • chemist77

    Member
    May 23, 2017 at 1:56 pm

    Try one of the Polyox powders, maybe Polyox WSR 201 at around 0.05-0.10% and see if gives a desired slip.

  • oldperry

    Member
    May 23, 2017 at 2:32 pm

    I’d reduce the oil levels and use Coconut Oil instead of the broccoli.  And your level of panthenol is too high as it won’t have any noticeable benefit on hair. The hydrolyzed wheat may increase the tackiness which decreases the slip you are looking for so you might want to reduce that too.

    Of course, I would recommend you use silicones because you really can’t beat them for slip. Choosing to avoid silicones is choosing to make a product that doesn’t work as well.

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    May 23, 2017 at 4:49 pm

    hello you can try silk amino acid and bamboo silk extract it can ghelp to replace the silicone , 

  • creatorhealer2020

    Member
    December 19, 2019 at 7:37 pm

    JennyB said:

    Hello

    I am quite new to formulating and have made few deep conditioners however they do not have the slip that I want for my hair ( I have African textured hair). I was wondering if anyone could provide some advice on how to increase the Slip in my conditioner formulation below:

    Water- 79.5 %
    Cetaryl Alcohol- 4%
    BTMS- 3%
    STEARAMIDOPROPYL DIMETHYLAMINE -3%
    Avocado Oil- 3%
    Broccoli Seed -3%
    D-pathanol- 1.5%
    Hydrolysed Wheat - 2%
    Preservative (PCG)- 1%

    Hello JennyB,
    I would suggest that if you like your formula’s ingredients then increase the BTMS50 and decrease the water by that same increase percentage.  I plan to use no less than 8% BTMS50 in my formula and I may test a batch with 10 to 12% BTMS 50.  Hope it goes well for you!

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