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I want to make a cream to deal with aches and muscle pains
I want to make a cream to take the pains and muscle pains, I have seen some ingredients from 2 different creams<div>
</div>A) Menthol (3.7%), Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Extract, Carbomer, Arnica Montana Flower Extract, Dimethyl Sulfone (MSM), EDTA, FDC Blue #1, Ilex Paraguarenis Leaf Extract, Melaleuca Alternifolia (Tea Tree) Oil Extract, Pyridoxine HCl ( Vitamin B6), Phenoxyethanol & Methyl/Ethyl/Butyl/Propyl/Isobutylparabens, Polysorbate 20, Purified Water, Tocopheryl (Vitamin E) Acetate, Triethanolamine
B) INGREDIENTS: AQUA (WATER), ALCOHOL DENAT, PEG-8, PEG-40 HYDROGENATED CASTOR OIL, METHYL SALICYLATE, EUCALYPTUS GLOBULUS (EUCALYPTUS) LEAF OIL, AMMONIUM ACRYLOYLDI-METHYLTAURATE/VP COPOLYMER, MENTHOL, CAPSICUM FRUTESCENS RESIN, THYMUS VULGARIS (THYME) FLOWER/LEAF OIL, HELIANTHUS ANNUUS (SUNFLOWER) ) SEED OIL, ALLANTOIN, PEG-12 DIMETHICONE, DISODIUM EDTA, TRIETHANOLAMINE, d-UMONENE, LINALOOL.
Which of the two will do better and which ingredients are not necessary?
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@thejoggler Nice update! However: How do I cite a post? And, BTW, I think I’m typing too fast, it’s often lagging and the cursor disappears for a second or two… didn’t happen before.
What’s active:
A) Menthol (3.7%) Gives a cooling sensation, Arnica Montana Flower Extract Might (depends on quality and quantity) be anti-inflammatory and is commonly used for bruises and injuries, Dimethyl Sulfone (MSM) Allegedly active on skin though likely just a claim… better eat it if you have a chronic inflammation, Melaleuca Alternifolia (Tea Tree) Oil Extract Can give a perceived effect, doesn’t do much for muscles
B) METHYL SALICYLATE anti-inflammatory, penetrates skin well, most often used ingredient in creams and gels for your indication, EUCALYPTUS GLOBULUS (EUCALYPTUS) LEAF OIL Can give a perceived effect, doesn’t do much for muscles, MENTHOL Gives a cooling sensation which is comforting but doesn’t do anything beside feeling cool on the skin, CAPSICUM FRUTESCENS RESIN Heating effect (exactly the opposite of menthol), can have an analgesic effect in sufficient quantity (with regard to capsaicin) which is better used against nerve pain, not sore mucles
That’s about all… Personally, I wouldn’t buy either of the two but if these were the only two products on the plante… maybe version B? But that depends on the amount of added ‘actives’.
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@Pharma - Still trying to figure this all out. To cite a previous post, I think you just have to paste in the link to that post?
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Clove. Topical analgestic and very effective for most pains including dental.
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But mostly a superficial effect which is better on mucosa than regular skin 😉 .
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I would go with the second one simply because it has both menthol and capsaicin, though the quality will depend on the percentage of actives and formulation technology itself.
As for which ingredients are unnecessary, any extract is usually just there for the marketing story and not used at a significant percentage. Same with the specific oils, they’re pretty much interchangeable (though I could be wrong). In the second formula, the d-limonene and linalool are just there as fragrance. Probably unnecessary and possibly irritating. Everything else is preservative, neutralizer, chelator, texture/viscosity enhancing, solubilizers, etc. So depending on how you want your cream to feel, smell, and look, you would have to decide what is necessary and not
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