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(I need a ) Gloss killer…
I seem to have to affinity for ingredients that create gloss in my moisturizing products. Funny thing… I have an aversion to glossy things.
Is there an ingredient that is effective at killing the skin gloss, (I don’t mind….in fact I like…gloss in the jar.) while possibly not taking away from the formula, and hopefully enhancing it. I now…asking way too much…but had to ask.
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Not sure if this is gonna help, but I’m using Montanov 202 and it provides matte finish. Love this, coz of my combination skin.
Other than that, I’m thinking about adding some type of powder to reduce the glossiness?
[Looking forward to see other’s suggestions on this one
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I vaguely remember you talked about Sepimat quite some time ago with Pattsi & ngarayeva001. It didn’t work out?
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@Graillotion I have this silicone from ShinEtsu called KSG-016F(INCI:Dimethicone (and) Dimethicone/Vinyl Dimethicone Crosspolymer) in a Leave In Conditioner, 2% in the formulation provides really silky feel and provides matte finish. https://www.ulprospector.com/en/na/PersonalCare/Detail/2366/238774/KSG-016F
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singhc10 said:…Vinyl Dimethicone Crosspolymer…That’s what I was looking for but kinda had a black out. Thanks for the AHA-moment 🙂 .@Graillotion It’s called Soft Focus Technology. This ingredient does reduce shine (hence its use in mattifiers) and is great to visually and instantaneously reduce wrinkles and skin imperfections due to an optical illusion (also employed in Light Diffusing Technology which is basically the same). Natural materials which can have such an effect (depending on quality) are for example talc and cellulose which both also absorb oils and sebun to further reduce gloss. -
I see this quote on the KSG-016F:
Due to its 3-dimentional crosslinked structure, it is able to diffuse light and give a soft focus effect, to conceal skin imperfections providing a natural look.
Also on the INCI, I see Dimethicone….which I use, I also use a polymeric and carbomer in everthing….and I use Polymethylsilsesquioxane, which is supposed to have the ‘blurring’ effect.Maybe I have just overwhelmed these minimizers?
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Paprik said:Not sure if this is gonna help, but I’m using Montanov 202 and it provides matte finish. Love this, coz of my combination skin.
Other than that, I’m thinking about adding some type of powder to reduce the glossiness?
[Looking forward to see other’s suggestions on this one
]I use Mont 202 in one of my finalized products…and I like the feel it gives. I am easily able to overwhelm its mattifying abilities…hehehe.
In the project I am working on…right now I am inclined to use Montanov L (with 165), but I am guessing Mont L…is not the culprit. Waiting on USPS to deliver some samples of emulsifier combinations around (for feedback), and then will finalize the emulsifier.
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Sepimat B as we discussed in another thread, plus check refractive index of your oils. If it’s too high you might want to change them.
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Sepimat series would have a superior feeling but if you only want to kill gloss and talc isn’t ideal name on the label, modified starch powder would be more cost effective in hand cream.
@Graillotion Dimethicone Crosspolymer is really good, you have to try it maybe you might have your new aha.
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Pattsi said:Sepimat series would have a superior feeling but if you only want to kill gloss and talc isn’t ideal name on the label, modified starch powder would be more cost effective in hand cream.
@Graillotion Dimethicone Crosspolymer is really good, you have to try it maybe you might have your new aha.
I am starting to wonder…if I have not naturally backed into this texture…by making my own cocktail of:
Dimethicone, cyclomethicone, Polymethylsilsesquioxane, arrowroot, Aristoflex and Carbomer? I call that my standard protocol for texturing. Feedback on textures are generally positive.
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