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  • Herbal blend - Can anyone see how this product is made and preserved?

    Posted by marinam on April 11, 2017 at 9:02 pm

    I am wondering if anyone can help me figuring out how this product is made and how it can be without alcohol when it really is an tincture mix of herbs. Here is the producers inci list:

    Angelica archangelica, Zingiber officinale, Curcuma zedoaria, Cinnamonum camphora, Gentiana lutea, Fraxinus ornus, venetian theriak*, Crocus sativus *Venetian theriak:
    Cinnamonum zeylanicum, Angelica archangelica, Zingiber officinale, Elettaria cardamomum.

    The product looks like dark brown water and has the same density as water. So I assume there is some water also in this? And how do they then preserve this when its alkohol free as the label claims?

    Jini replied 7 years, 3 months ago 6 Members · 5 Replies
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  • Microformulation

    Member
    April 11, 2017 at 9:09 pm

    The list is incomplete. Firstly, what is the vehicle which the botanicals are in? Is it water? Water/Glycerin? As the INCI declaration is incomplete, I would wager that when you referred to more complete documentation, you will see a preservative (Phenoxyethanol perhaps) listed as well.

  • DRBOB@VERDIENT.BIZ

    Member
    April 11, 2017 at 9:13 pm

    if it looks like water and as per density acts like water:it likely is-and an aqueous mish mosh of unpreserved herbal extracts some of which likely have a preservative which protects raw material(hopefully) but product is suspicious to say the least.

  • MarkBroussard

    Member
    April 12, 2017 at 4:35 am

    It could well be that this is combination of extracts in Butylene Glycol, Glycerin, Water/Glycein 50/50, Propylene Glycol … impossible to tell with an incomplete ingredients list.

  • johnb

    Member
    April 12, 2017 at 7:17 am

    That list is NOT an INCI list.

    Venetian theriak is a very old term from traditional herbal practice and is ill defined as to what it actually is. “Theriak” is an ancient term for treacle.

    The list you offered looks more like a part recipe for an 18th century formulation of some kind of elixir. Similar recipe products are still sold in continental Europe as “digestifs”.Your list (with the addition of liquorice) reminds me of Fernet-Branca (a very much acquired taste but I enjoyed it immensely after meals when I worked in the South of France -although it is an Italian product).

    Are you certain your product is alcohol free?

  • Jini

    Member
    April 12, 2017 at 11:41 am

    It could be a Glycerite which are herbal tinctures made with part vegetable glycerin and water to extract the medicinal constituents and flavor from a herb.

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