Home Cosmetic Science Talk Formulating Help! Toner is sticky!

  • belassi

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    October 10, 2017 at 1:30 pm

    It’s probably the ethanol. I did not find a way around this. However, the effect should go away in a few minutes.

  • markbroussard

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    October 10, 2017 at 6:42 pm

    Betaine tends to be quite sticky.  If your Multifruits BSC are in a glycerine base, that could be another contributing factor.

  • DRBOB@VERDIENT.BIZ

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    October 10, 2017 at 8:43 pm

    Silicone polyol DC  193 (1-2%) 

  • Lainee

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    October 23, 2017 at 1:13 am

    Update: Removed betaine. Still sticky. 

  • bill_toge

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    October 23, 2017 at 6:51 am

    my prime suspect is PEG-40 HCO; try using a different solubiliser, e.g. polysorbate 20

  • Lainee

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    October 23, 2017 at 7:08 am

    Update: Removed Betaine and Multifruits BSC. Still sticky. 

    @Bill_Toge I only have here PEG-7 Glyceryl Cocoate, Polyglyceryl-3 Caprylate/Caprate/Succinate and Propylene Glycol, PEG-40 HCO and Polysorbate 60. 

    One of my benchmarks has PEG-40 HCO but it doesnt feel sticky. 

  • Lainee

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    October 23, 2017 at 7:16 am

    @Bill_Toge As far as i know, polysorbates are sticky. I’m just using a solubilizer to clear my mixture cause it gets cloudy once I mixed phase B to A. 

  • DRBOB@VERDIENT.BIZ

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    October 24, 2017 at 3:37 am

    Try replacing some of the etoh with PG

  • crisbaysauli

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    October 27, 2017 at 10:01 am

    agree with @Bill_Toge. @Lainee try lowering PEG 40 to 0.50% since your alcohol is already at 35% the risk of having a cloudy solution is low already. You wouldn’t need too much PEG-40 since it seems to me you don’t have to solubilize any oil at all.

  • RDKOXYNERGY

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    October 28, 2017 at 4:26 pm

    Add bit butylene glycol or propylene glycol. You have also some water soluble silicones thar remive sticky after feel. You can also add bit of hyaluronic acid.

  • RDKOXYNERGY

    Member
    October 28, 2017 at 4:28 pm

    I guess also with only 1% salicylic you can reduce ethanol. 35 is too much. I guess with 15% it will be enough. If you add butylene glycol it will also helps to solubilize your salicylic acid.

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