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  • hair straightening keratin products. I need help

    Posted by Benyamin on May 4, 2023 at 11:24 am

    Hello, I make hair straightening keratin products. I need help

    Benyamin replied 3 weeks ago 6 Members · 16 Replies
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  • gordof

    Member
    May 5, 2023 at 6:40 am

    well ok could you specify what the problem is it is rather difficult to tell by your title. do you have Separation is pH a problem is it not working as intended??????

    And please give us some informations about your formulation otherwise you will not get answers that help you very much

    • Benyamin

      Member
      May 6, 2023 at 12:56 pm

      Hello, I want an alternative to formaldehyde and glyoxylic acid

    • Benyamin

      Member
      May 8, 2023 at 12:43 pm

      @gordof Hello, I want an alternative to formaldehyde and glyoxylic acid

  • chemicalmatt

    Member
    May 8, 2023 at 10:58 am

    @Benyamin be advised all of these so-called keratin straighteners were based on formaldehyde generation, not the keratin itself. The Brazilian thing was a short-lived scam, in my opinion. Stating the obvious here: why not try alkaline hair relaxers like sodium or guanidine hydroxide systems if the carboxylol acid products don’t meet your needs?

    • Benyamin

      Member
      May 8, 2023 at 12:40 pm

      Guandine and sodium hydroxide does not burn the hair?

    • Benyamin

      Member
      May 8, 2023 at 12:42 pm

      @chemicalmatt Guandine and sodium hydroxide does not burn the hair?

      • chemicalmatt

        Member
        May 9, 2023 at 12:41 pm

        @Benyamin Both of these will “burn” hair when your cream base containing them is left on longer than 25 minutes, though the popular term is “shedding.” Scalp will burn even sooner. The alkali cream hair relaxers have been working their lanthionizing chemistry for nearly 60 years, first in the salon then in the retail storefront, where the safer 2-part guanidine system held place. The black hair care community has trended away from them now, for reasons of safety and cultural awareness. Safety first and wisely so, I guess. I’ve had to give depositions for product liability lawsuits three times over course of my career, and two of these were for alkaline no-base hair relaxer products.

        • Benyamin

          Member
          May 9, 2023 at 4:01 pm

          @chemicalmatt I want to make a smoothing combination based on formaldehyde, glyoxylic acid and glyoxyloyl carbocysteine. I know cationic surfactants, hydrolyzed، silicones, natural oils and preservatives, I just don’t know which nonionic surfactants and emulsifiers are important to use in my compositions.

          • Benyamin

            Member
            May 9, 2023 at 4:06 pm

            @chemicalmatt @Perry44

            I want to start with a simple combination of water with glyoxylic or formaldehyde and add one raw material to the formula at a time. Will I get results?

            Or it is better to prepare a normal formula and increase and decrease the percentage?

        • Benyamin

          Member
          May 9, 2023 at 4:02 pm

          @chemicalmatt @Perry44

          I want to make a smoothing combination based on formaldehyde, glyoxylic acid and glyoxyloyl carbocysteine. I know cationic surfactants, hydrolyzed، silicones, natural oils and preservatives, I just don’t know which nonionic surfactants and emulsifiers are important to use in my compositions.

          • Hpmangukiya

            Member
            July 20, 2023 at 12:43 am

            use Seriliss for your treatments. everything will be perfect after addition of this.you don’t need any acid or formaldehydes.

            • Benyamin

              Member
              August 5, 2023 at 8:44 pm

              Hello, it is not available in our country. Can you introduce other important compounds, thank you

              @Hpmangukiya

  • Eliza

    Member
    July 11, 2023 at 9:56 am

    Cheers Benyamin

    Chemists normally charge money for formulations including custom ones

    • chemicalmatt

      Member
      August 9, 2023 at 1:29 pm

      Well said!

      • Benyamin

        Member
        May 22, 2024 at 5:46 pm

        you are russian

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