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  • kconley

    Member
    July 22, 2021 at 12:43 am

    Greetings!!! I am making a cream with peptides and niacinamide. For phase C they want me to use 2% GelMaker EMU (inci name: Sodium acrylate / sodium acryloyldimethyl taurate copolymer, isohexadecane, polysorbate 80).

    I want to know if there is another ingredient I can use to substitute GelMaker. Could I substitute the GelMaker for Simulgel INS 100?

      Simulgel INS 100= (Hydroxyethyl Acrylate / Sodium Acryloyl Dimethyl taurate co-polymer &Isohexadecane & Polysorbate 60 for GelMaker EMU

    They seem similar. Again this is for 2% which is defined as a thickener/emulsifier.

    Also, I’d like to know if it would be appropriate to add a silicone gel crosspolymer pre-neutralized polymer to the cream formulation? 

    The data says this crosspolymer can used with an emollient such as cetyl alcohol 1%. (see below inci name for crosspolymer).

    The actives would be tripeptide-5 at 3% and argireline at 5%. But since I have Matrix 3000 and not tripeptide 5 I want to use Matrix3000.  Matrix300 inci: glycerin (and) Aqua (and) Butylene Glycol (and) Carbomer (and) Polysorbate 20 (and) Palmitoyl Tripeptide-1 (and) Palmitoyl.

    INCI NAME: Dimethicone (and) Dimethicone/Vinyl Dimethicone Crosspolymer. This product  is said to have a light feel. It’s described as a silicone gel crosspolymer. The name is all in initials and from China. It’s USG-107A.

  • OldPerry

    Member
    July 22, 2021 at 6:24 pm

    Yes, it looks like GelMaker EMU could be substituted for Simulgel INS 100 although it might not quite work the same. 

    Whether you can use the pre-neutralized polymer or not also depends on what other things you have in there and the pH.

  • SHENON

    Member
    July 23, 2021 at 3:57 pm

    Greetings! Thanking for giving opportunity for ask the questions.May i ask some questions related for making cleaners and detergents.I planning for make cleaners for dish washing and hand washing.

    1)I suppose to use the essential oil with the Nice Antibacterial ,additional add BAK antibacterial ,SLS,CAPB,CDEA,Colorant,Industrial Salt,glycerine

    2)Another one essential oil with nice anti bacterial,SLS,CAPB,CDEA,Colorant,Industrial Salt,Lactic Acid .

    3)Can I add the enzyme for the cleaners and detergents,is it conpulsory to add for both the solutions.

    Thanking you very much

  • Iwana

    Member
    August 11, 2021 at 5:49 pm

    For soft gel how to mix Melatonin with oil?
    Which solvent to mix it first with in order for it to dissolve in oil.

  • Iwana

    Member
    August 30, 2021 at 6:52 pm

    How to make my lotion less greasy

    Formulation
    Water 73
    Butter 7.58
    Oil 7.58
    E. wax 4.8
    Steric acid 3.86
    Frag 1.51
    Vit E 0.75
    Preservative 0.9

    I you have any  suggestion please do message.

  • OldPerry

    Member
    August 30, 2021 at 7:49 pm

    @Iwana - Use less butter and oil.

  • Paprik

    Member
    August 30, 2021 at 8:14 pm

    Iwana said:

    How to make my lotion less greasy

    Formulation
    Water 73
    Butter 7.58
    Oil 7.58
    E. wax 4.8
    Steric acid 3.86
    Frag 1.51
    Vit E 0.75
    Preservative 0.9

    I you have any  suggestion please do message.

    As Perry said, and also you can improve the feeling by using some light esters such as coco caprylate.

  • Iwana

    Member
    August 31, 2021 at 12:14 am

    But then ill have to add a viscosity booster to increase viscosity.
    Any suggestions? 

  • Graillotion

    Member
    August 31, 2021 at 12:20 am

    Any fatty alcohol.

    All will impart a different feel, so you’ll have to sample through them until you find one you like the best.

    Also consider the polymeric emulsifiers…like Aristoflex AVC…they impart a gel undertone…that makes things feel good.

  • Syl

    Member
    August 31, 2021 at 12:26 am

    You can use a fatty alcohol like cetyl alcohol. You might also want to include a humectant like glycerin.

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