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  • Formulating Hair Tonic Detangler

    Posted by hakem on February 10, 2023 at 5:50 am

    Hi i am formulating for personal use. Not chemist background. Final product feel a bit tacky and sticky and the spray did not spread. Can feel a bit detangler. Want to archive clear liquid, Hair Growth, Detangler and Perfumed. Here the formulation :

    Aqua - sq (81%)

    D-Panthenol - 0.2

    Disodium Edta - 0.1

    Glycerin - 1

    Guar Hydroxypropyltrimonium Chloride - 0.35

    Herbal Extract - 1

    Hydrolyzed Keratin - 1

    Silk Peptide Protein - 0.5

    Polyquaternium-7 - 3

    Peg-12 Dimethicone - 2

    Hydroxyethyl Urea - 5

    Cetrimonium Chloride - 0.25

    Peg-40 Hydrogenated Castor Oil - 1.3

    Marula & Hibiscus Oil- 0.1

    EO - 0.2

    Fragrance -1

    Tocopherol - 0.1

    Phenoxyethanol, Ethylhexylglycerin - 1

    Thank You

    denise.berger replied 1 year ago 4 Members · 9 Replies
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  • chemicalmatt

    Member
    February 10, 2023 at 10:28 am

    hakem, the proteins are making this “tacky” or sticky as you have felt. This formula will not mist or spray, only stream from nozzle, because you have two polymers in here: guar HPTC and polyquaternium-7. Polymers do not like to atomize in sprays. The dilemma for you: those are the best detanglers in your formula! Take out and not much detangler. Make this a serum, not spray, and reduce those proteins. If not, take out polymers and spray on as “hair treatment”.

  • hakem

    Member
    February 10, 2023 at 11:35 am

    Thank you so much for your reply. so i will make hair treatment instead.

    i wonder how to make spray-able hair detangler ????

  • ketchito

    Member
    February 10, 2023 at 2:56 pm

    @hakem if you want to make sprayable detangler, just make some liquid emulsion with cationic surfactants (like the CTC you already have in your formula) and fatty alcohols. You could also add some lubricants (like esters or very fluid silicones).

    • hakem

      Member
      February 10, 2023 at 11:57 pm

      @ketchito should i add Guar HTC or just remove it?

  • ketchito

    Member
    February 12, 2023 at 5:44 am

    @hakem You can remove cationic guar. As @chemicalmatt mentioned, it won’t let you spray the product, and in emulsion, cationic surfactants are actually more active than polymers.

    • hakem

      Member
      February 12, 2023 at 10:57 am

      @ketchito i see. CTC for leave-on max only 0.25 right?

  • ketchito

    Member
    February 13, 2023 at 5:30 am

    According to Cosing, you could use up to 0.5% (as active material) in a leav-on. Nevertheless, due to sensitization, you could leave it up at 0.25% (as active material), and mix it with another cationic, like Behentrimonium chloride. And also use a liquid lubricant (like an ester or silicone).

    • hakem

      Member
      February 28, 2023 at 10:48 am

      i already make as you suggested, and it work! Thank you so much

  • denise.berger

    Member
    May 31, 2023 at 2:59 am

    I wonder, where did you purchase the hydroxyethyl urea? I’ve been trying to find this product.

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