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    Posted by JellyFishKarma on June 28, 2023 at 3:36 pm

    Does the viscosity determine the foaming ability of a foaming component? I have a shampoo that must use a foaming component. I am having a horrible time trying to achieve a nice foam and bubble.

    JellyFishKarma replied 1 year, 3 months ago 3 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Perry44

    Administrator
    June 28, 2023 at 5:11 pm

    No. Foam and viscosity are not directly related.

    If you list your ingredients maybe someone can give some suggestion on improving foam.

    • JellyFishKarma

      Member
      June 28, 2023 at 6:04 pm

      Thank you!! I am trying to get a nice firm foam from a foaming component. I am actually trying to make a mousse type of product that will have a foam texture.

      Water 68.340

      Xanthan gum 0.3%

      DHA 12.0%

      DHA booster 1.0%

      ectoin 0.3%

      propanediol 3.0%

      butylene Glycol 1.0%

      Decyl glucoside/Sodium lauroyl Lactylate 2.00

      glycerin 1.0%

      EDTA 0.05%

      ethoxydiglycol 1.00%

      liquid emulsifier 1.00%

      Polysorbate 20-2.00%

      mango butter 0.5%

      fragrance 0.5%

      preservative 1.00%

      extracts-5.51%

      I hope this helps????

      • Abdullah

        Member
        June 29, 2023 at 11:50 am

        What is DHA?

        If you want foam use a surfactant like SLES

        • JellyFishKarma

          Member
          June 29, 2023 at 12:35 pm

          Thank you for answering me. DHA is dihydroxyacetone. Must use a non ionic surfactant like decyl glucoside. I am having problems producing a “whipped”like foam. I keep getting a “chunky” foam that goes flat quickly.

      • Perry44

        Administrator
        June 29, 2023 at 1:03 pm

        You have a lot of stuff in there that kills foam.

        Xanthan gum

        propanediol

        butylene Glycol

        glycerin

        mango butter

        fragrance

        extracts

        Use less of these (or take the out)

        Also, as Abdullah says, using a good foaming surfactant would help too.

        In formulating, if you put ingredient restrictions on yourself you are also putting performance restrictions on yourself.

        You can’t expect a Toyota to go as fast as a Ferrari. Similarly, you can’t expect inferior surfactants to foam as well as the good ones.

  • JellyFishKarma

    Member
    June 29, 2023 at 1:30 pm

    Thank you Gentlemen. I am assume the glycols are what is diffusing the foam? I am following a vendor formula. They were much help.

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