Home Cosmetic Science Talk Cosmetic Industry Cyclopentasiloxane suppliers

  • graillotion

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    December 30, 2021 at 7:28 am

    Leo said:

    Can someone please provide a list of Cyclopentasiloxane ingredient suppliers?

  • Cafe33

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    December 31, 2021 at 3:19 am

    Is anyone having issues sourcing this recently ? The two suppliers I have here in Mexico no longer have it. 

  • chemicalmatt

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    December 31, 2021 at 4:47 pm

    EVERYONE is having difficulty obtaining silicones right now. The supply chain for these - especially the cyclics - is distorted and super tight. Price for D5 in many spots is now 400% higher than one year ago, and that’s if you can even get it. Dow-DuPont declared force majeur a while back (why? who knows) and that sent the silicone market into a death spiral of supply where it was already headed. Yeesh! Good luck. I’ll suggest trying the smaller suppliers, like A&B Specialty Silicones in Illinois USA.

  • Leo

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    December 31, 2021 at 8:35 pm

    This is a transient issue that reflects the state of the supply chain today due to the pandemic. Its a collusion by the few silicone manufacturers. They are storing the inventory (like Toyota with cars) and upping the prices to squeeze the market and make $$. Similar to what happened with masks and sanitizers and toilet paper at the start of the pandemic. Once the demand goes down and the pandemic ends this year, the prices will go way down again….once the companies decide it is time to open the flood gates again with their inventory.

  • Cafe33

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    January 5, 2022 at 3:40 pm

    It was suggested by a supplier to try coconut alkanes as a “natural” substitute for cyclopentasiloxane. Naturally I am quite skeptical. Any opinions or experiences ?

  • oldperry

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    January 5, 2022 at 6:43 pm

    @Cafe33 -  It’s like substituting a horse for a car. Sure, they’ll both get you where you want to be but there is a difference.  Hydrocarbons just do not have the same feel as silicones. But in some formulas the consumer may not really notice any difference.

  • ngarayeva001

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    January 6, 2022 at 1:36 am

    It’s a matter of perception but I feel like cetiol ultimate is more spreadable than D5 (again my personal perception). I am not a fan of ‘natural’ alternatives but this one is nice.

  • klangridge

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    January 6, 2022 at 2:16 pm

    What formulations are you hoping to use the D5 in? Depending on the specific function in that formula there may be an alternative on the market which won’t be an exact replacement but might do the job.

  • Cafe33

    Member
    January 6, 2022 at 3:59 pm

    I am developing a “curl amplifier” for a client. A fixative gel and cream which combines different types of polymers with silicones in an o/w emulsion. D5 seems to be high in the ingredient list with all the benchmarks I was provided.

    So far I was told that my formulation “dries” in the proper time.   

  • Leo

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    January 8, 2022 at 3:45 am

    Can anyone get me any D5 at this time?

  • graillotion

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    January 8, 2022 at 7:01 am

    Leo said:

    Can anyone get me any D5 at this time?

    Well….you did say….ANY…  ;)

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  • graillotion

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    January 8, 2022 at 7:22 am

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