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  carbomer based gel type cleanser

  Posted by cherri on May 4, 2015 at 10:20 pm

  Hope everyone is enjoying the spring weather.
  Quick question- I would like to create a carbomer based gel type cleanser. Is there any restriction using anionic/nonionic/amphoteric surfactant? I see the viscosity dropped right after the neutralization step and cannot get the desired viscosity. How do I increase my viscosity? Can anyone please help?

  Carbomer Ultrez
  AMP
  Sodium laureth sulfoccinate
  Sodium cocoglutamate
  Cocamidopropyl betaine
  Decyl glucoside

  Thanks in advance

  belassi replied 9 years, 2 months ago 4 Members · 6 Replies
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  belassi

  Member

  May 5, 2015 at 4:44 pm

  It doesn’t like surfactants, the recommended one is Aqua SF-1. Good luck.

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  Chemist77

  Member

  May 5, 2015 at 5:19 pm

  Be careful, aeration is a big problem with Aqua SF1.

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  belassi

  Member

  May 5, 2015 at 6:47 pm

  Exactly … I didn’t want to be negative, but I rejected carbomers in shampoos after about 6 months of unsatisfactory tests. I’d only use carbomer if I wanted to suspend something, such as Primasponges. 

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  ozgirl

  Member

  May 5, 2015 at 10:45 pm

  Have you looked at all of the different formulations and information on the Lubrizol website? There are a number of cleansing formulations with Ultrez polymers available on the website that would give you an idea of what might work.

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  cherri

  Member

  May 8, 2015 at 8:25 pm

  @ozgirl @Belassi @Chemist77 Thanks all

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  belassi

  Member

  May 8, 2015 at 10:06 pm

  You’re welcome. And one more thing: carbomer as a thickener tends to ‘short-flow’ sensorials. Gives a sort of ‘cushion breaking’ sensation on spreading. Bite the bullet and go for a thickener or combo of thickeners. Give out lots of samples using different thickeners and ask for feedback. In my case it comes down to a cost/sensorials balance.

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