Home Cosmetic Science Talk Formulating Can you please suggest, how to solubilize water soluble extract in body oil?

  • Can you please suggest, how to solubilize water soluble extract in body oil?

    Posted by kajalthakur on December 22, 2022 at 5:15 am

    Percentage of water soluble extract  is 1%  and base content 98% of oils. Also I want end product transparent.

    fareloz replied 1 year, 8 months ago 7 Members · 13 Replies
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  • Pharma

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    December 22, 2022 at 7:59 pm
    Use high refractory index protic solvens or suspend micronised extracts or extract impregnated silica.
  • Graillotion

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    December 23, 2022 at 2:57 am

    Pharma said:

    Use high refractory index protic solvens or suspend micronised extracts or extract impregnated silica.

    That was on the tip of my tongue.  :D

  • kajalthakur

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    December 26, 2022 at 9:08 am

    @Pharma can you please suggest one example for it which is suitable skin and hair care product…thank you

  • Pharma

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    December 26, 2022 at 10:07 am

    @kajalthakur What you’re looking for is called a book… 😉

  • MarkBroussard

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    December 26, 2022 at 2:40 pm

    @kajalthakur

    Why go through all the trouble of trying to introduce an ingredient at 1% that is completely incompatible with the base of your formula?  Try to find that extract in an oil base or delete it from your formula.  If it is a water-soluble extract that 1% would equate to 98% water and 2% extract … so when you factor it into the full formula the amount of extract you have will be 0.002% which is virtually nothing.

  • kajalthakur

    Member
    January 2, 2023 at 6:33 am

    @MarkBroussard . Yes you are right but if it happen when we have to add water soluble extract in oil soo what to do??

  • MarkBroussard

    Member
    January 2, 2023 at 1:17 pm

    @kajalthakur:

    Simply don’t add it.  You’re creating a problem for yourself with no added benefit.  Like I said, you are simply adding 98% water or water/glycerin to end with with 0.002% extract in your product.  The extract won’t do anything, so find a different oil-solulble marketing ingredient.

  • Shams

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    January 2, 2023 at 9:00 pm
  • Pharma

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    January 2, 2023 at 9:20 pm
    She proposes PGPR… urks… great in food technology but for cosmetics, there are certainly better options out there (maybe not cheaper ones, though).
    And you might still face the issue of matching optical densities in order to obtain a transparent emulsion (= go with a glycerin/polyol based extract).
  • kajalthakur

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    January 3, 2023 at 5:20 am

    @MarkBroussard thanks for your support.

  • kajalthakur

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    January 3, 2023 at 5:24 am

    @Pharma yes it is a huge problem of matching optical density .I will go through it as you suggest .Thank you

  • GeorgeBenson

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    January 3, 2023 at 9:39 am

    This body oil i found on sephora seens to be doing it somehow:

    Oryza Sativa (Rice) Bran Oil, Olea Europaea (Olive) Fruit Oil, Ricinus Communis (Castor) Seed Oil, Simmondsia Chinensis (Jojoba) Seed Oil, Cocos Nucifera (Coconut) Oil, Parfum/Fragrance, Camellia Japonica Seed Oil, Polyglyceryl-10 Pentaisostearate, Argania Spinosa Kernel Oil, Chamaecyparis Obtusa Wood Oil, Squalane, Chamaecyparis Obtusa Water, Saccharomyces/Rice Ferment Filtrate, Camellia Sinensis Leaf Extract, Cladosiphon Okamuranus Extract, Prunus Persica (Peach) Leaf Extract, Ceramide NP, Propanediol, Butylene Glycol, Tocopherol, Tremella Fuciformis Polysaccharide, Aqua/Water/Eau, Citronellol, Geraniol, Farnesol, Limonene, Linalool, Ethylhexylglycerin, Phenoxyethanol.

    any idea how they are accomplishing this?

  • fareloz

    Member
    January 3, 2023 at 9:54 am

    This body oil i found on sephora seens to be doing it somehow:

    Oryza Sativa (Rice) Bran Oil, Olea Europaea (Olive) Fruit Oil, Ricinus Communis (Castor) Seed Oil, Simmondsia Chinensis (Jojoba) Seed Oil, Cocos Nucifera (Coconut) Oil, Parfum/Fragrance, Camellia Japonica Seed Oil, Polyglyceryl-10 Pentaisostearate, Argania Spinosa Kernel Oil, Chamaecyparis Obtusa Wood Oil, Squalane, Chamaecyparis Obtusa Water, Saccharomyces/Rice Ferment Filtrate, Camellia Sinensis Leaf Extract, Cladosiphon Okamuranus Extract, Prunus Persica (Peach) Leaf Extract, Ceramide NP, Propanediol, Butylene Glycol, Tocopherol, Tremella Fuciformis Polysaccharide, Aqua/Water/Eau, Citronellol, Geraniol, Farnesol, Limonene, Linalool, Ethylhexylglycerin, Phenoxyethanol.

    any idea how they are accomplishing this?

    Polyglyceryl-10 Pentaisostearate
    If you google the name you’ll see it is an emulsifier.

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