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  • Buying my first homogenizer, what should I get?

    Posted by GeorgeBenson on April 29, 2022 at 7:15 pm

    What are your guys go-to choices for homogenizers? I know Silversons are great but im not sure I have that kinda of money right now. Thinking I’ll just get a small handheld one that can handle a few liters at a time. I see the Dynamix mentioned here from time to time, is that a good choice? Budget is ideally a few hundred but I could be convinced to spend a couple grand.

    anima replied 1 month ago 6 Members · 16 Replies
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  • suswang8

    Member
    April 29, 2022 at 9:27 pm

    Do you see the need to make small samples with it (e.g., 50g)?  Or not really?  If not, then maybe pursue the Dynamix.

  • GeorgeBenson

    Member
    April 29, 2022 at 10:02 pm

    No, nothing that small, 100-200 ml at minimum

  • Graillotion

    Member
    April 30, 2022 at 2:05 am

    Dynamix is the way to go…for a few hundred dollars.  But be sure to get the emulsifying head, as that is one of the more important aspects.  You can save a lot of $$$, by buying them as a package up front.

    When I am formulating, I typically make 150 gram batches, and that head fits perfectly in a (narrow) tall form 250 gram beaker.

    I’ll see if I can find the link…for that combo, and send it on, later.

    Nothing else in the ‘stick blender world’ comes remotely close.  And just beastly quality.

  • Graillotion

    Member
    April 30, 2022 at 2:13 am

    This is what you want to end up with.  You can check pricing…piecing it together.

    Dynamic MiniPro MX069.1 Blender/ Homogenizer, 6.5, 115V Commercial Food Blenders - BakeDeco.Com

    Dynamic AC560 7 1/2″ Blender Tool for MiniPro Mixer (katom.com)

    Dynamic MX070.13 4 qt Immersion Blender w/ Variable Speed Motor, 115v (katom.com)

    Dynamic MX070.13 Black/White Handheld Mixer, Used Excellent Condition General Food Preparation - BakeDeco.Com

    Most of these places will give you 10% off your first purchase…is you sign up for their e-mail newsletter.

    Enjoy the beast…and trust me…… buy the good one right out of the gate, instead of buying something lesser, then having to buy the good one a month or two down the road (cheaper buying just one, instead of two).

    Aloha

  • Graillotion

    Member
    April 30, 2022 at 2:19 am

    Oh…the other thing that separates the Dynamic from many others….and something I find INCREDIBLY  useful…it has infinitely adjustable speed….from 1 rpm….on up.  A lot of other options in this category, does not have the precise adjustability….which you will eventually find….critical.

  • GeorgeBenson

    Member
    April 30, 2022 at 7:03 am

    @Graillotion Amazing, thank you!

  • justaerin

    Member
    April 30, 2022 at 8:11 pm
    I recently bought the emulsifer part from Katom because I already have the MiniPro and they have the best price, and it arrived quickly in perfect condition.
    I haven’t tried the emulsifier with it yet, but I agree that the MiniPro is a well-made, repairable, adjustable-speed beast. I’ve used it to make lots of 1 kilo batches since I bought it.
  • Abdullah

    Member
    April 30, 2022 at 11:22 pm

    @Graillotion @justaerin is the motor ac or dc? 

    I mean can can it work continually like big homogenizers or just a few minutes like stick blenders? 

  • suswang8

    Member
    April 30, 2022 at 11:43 pm

    A sales rep told me 90 seconds was a safe runtime, but I would imagine it depends on the viscosity.

    Also, I thought this device was known for introducing a bit more air than is ideal, but I am not sure.

  • Graillotion

    Member
    May 1, 2022 at 3:25 am

    suswang8 said:

    A sales rep told me 90 seconds was a safe runtime, but I would imagine it depends on the viscosity.

    Also, I thought this device was known for introducing a bit more air than is ideal, but I am not sure.

    I run mine for a timed 2 minutes upon combining phases, and yes it will get warm, but the machine is designed for that.  I also use it on and off while working with the aqueous phase, as I tend to use a lot of powders, and throughout the pH adjusting process in the aqueous phase.

    Regarding introducing air…that would be 100% user error.  Proper beaker shape, and keeping the head submerged, and no human error, this device will not introduce air, other than if you accidently create a vortex down to the level of the vents.

    My comments are based on the emulsifying head, as stick blender heads are well known for creating messes.

    • anima

      Member
      March 20, 2024 at 1:58 pm

      Hi @graillotion
      I have read different moments of your blender search through the forum.
      It’s possible for you to guide me on the use of the two elements you mention of the MiniPro?
      I´m a bit confused and need to make the investment for sure, sure you will understand 🙂
      Thank you very much,
      Nicole

      • Graillotion

        Member
        March 20, 2024 at 2:22 pm

        The D Minipro with the emulsifying head….can only serve as creating shear. It cannot functionally stir.

        A typical emulsion is first sheared….then stirred to cool down. Since the MiniPro cannot run for extended amounts of time….in cannot take the place of an overhead stirrer. Also… as an emulsion starts to form, especially the lamellar types….we don’t want a steady dose of shear. Some up front….and a kiss at finish is typically sufficient.

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