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  • biphasic hair mask

    Posted by nasrins on November 22, 2014 at 1:26 am

    ingredients in biphasic hair mask are:

    water - dimethicone- cyclomethicone- betain30%- cetrimonium chloride 30%- hydrolyzed keratin- sodium chloride - preservative

    whats a role of NaCl here? does it have effect on the stability of 2 phase( I mean it keeps them seperate)?

     

    pepe replied 9 years, 5 months ago 3 Members · 11 Replies
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  • pepe

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    November 22, 2014 at 5:36 am

    Salts increase the surface tension of water because you are adding some ionic energy to the hydrogen-bond energy…This is why salts are used in a two phase conditioners. By increasing the surface tension of water in the biphase systems you shorten the separation time of two phases…

  • Chemist77

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    November 22, 2014 at 6:23 am

    @pepe Since salt is generally a part of Betaine I was thinking more on that line that it has been mentioned as a part of betaine. And of course the function which you mentioned and which is inherent to salt for surfactant systems.

  • nasrins

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    November 22, 2014 at 7:30 am

    @pepe salt decreased or increased surface tension of water?

  • pepe

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    November 25, 2014 at 2:24 am

    if your water is perfectly deionized distiled water then the addition of salt will increase the surface tension…

  • nasrins

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    November 25, 2014 at 2:38 am

    ok thans pepe

  • pepe

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    November 25, 2014 at 3:16 am

    but I recommend you to add some silicone emulsifer to the formula for better separation and better look…Like peg/ppg 18/18 or peg-12 dimethicone derivatives…Even you can use some amodimethicone ;)

  • nasrins

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    November 25, 2014 at 5:18 am

    @pepe PEG-12 Dimethicone is soluble in water how it can seperate 2 phase?

  • pepe

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    November 25, 2014 at 5:58 am

    actually peg-12 dimethicone soluble in both oil and water…the sufficient amount of silicone emulsifier get two phase together and within the shortest possible time make them seperate…Because that ”sufficient amount” is not enough to emulsify them totally…;)

  • nasrins

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    November 25, 2014 at 6:13 am

    @pepe <the sufficient amount of silicone emulsifier get two phase together and within the shortest possible time make them seperate> we suppose have sufficient amount of peg12 dimethicone in our emulsion ok? how it can get two phase together and make them seperate in one moment!!!??

  • pepe

    Member
    November 25, 2014 at 7:11 am

    nature of the chemistry…enough to get them together…not enough to generate a stable emulsion…it is just about the proportion of the silicone emulsifier 

  • nasrins

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    November 25, 2014 at 7:39 am

    <not enough to generate a stable emulsion> if it is not enought to generate a stable emulsion it doesnt mean it makes the emulsion seperate( a clear 2 seperated phase ), I mean in biphasic hair mask something like peg-12 dimethicone just can solve 2 phase and it  can not make them seperate.  do u agree with me?

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