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  • Anydrous body wash? Is it possible?

    Posted by Lal8899 on October 23, 2021 at 9:01 pm

    Hi everyone, a client has requested an anhydrous body wash that lathers up similar to a regular water-based body wash. I’m trying to figure out if I can come up with an anhydrous base first using esters + diols but I’m really stuck. What could we possible replace the water with? I could try to do an oil-based cleanser, but that wouldn’t later as well and would probably just be a “milk” consistency. I believe they want to be water-free for environmental purposes. Any help would be appreciated. 

    abierose replied 1 year, 3 months ago 7 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Microformulation

    Member
    October 23, 2021 at 10:16 pm

    Shampoo bar or other such solid form.

  • Lal8899

    Member
    October 23, 2021 at 10:27 pm

    Hi @Microformulation - the client wants it in liquid form. I thought of a simple soap bar too. But that won’t work out. 

  • Sincityfire

    Member
    October 23, 2021 at 11:15 pm

    It’s possible, L’Occitane and The Body Shop both have an oil based body wash that lathers.

    Lush uses glycerin instead of water for much of their shower gels.

  • Perry

    Member
    October 24, 2021 at 12:38 am

    @Sincityfire which products are you referring to? You have a link?

  • Sincityfire

    Member
    October 24, 2021 at 1:46 am

    Perry said:

    @Sincityfire which products are you referring to? You have a link?

    Sure, here are the products and their ingredient lists:

    • L’Occitane Almond Shower Oil: Vitis Vinifera (grape) Seed Oil, Tipa-laureth Sulfate, Laureth-3, Caprylic/capric Triglyceride, Parfum/fragrance, Cocamide Mea, Propylene Glycol, Sorbitan Oleate, Prunus Amygdalus Dulcis (sweet Almond) Oil, Citrus Aurantium Bergamia (bergamot) Fruit Oil, Helianthus Annuus (sunflower) Seed Oil, Rosmarinus Officinalis (rosemary) Leaf Extract, Tocopherol, Aqua/water, Limonene, Coumarin, Linalool
    • The Body Shop Hemp Hydrating & Protecting Shower Oil: Glycine Soja Oil/Glycine Soja (Soybean) Oil, Caprylic/Capric Triglyceride, Laureth-3, MIPA-Laureth Sulfate, Cannabis Sativa Seed Oil, Laureth-7 Citrate, Ricinus Communis Seed Oil/Ricinus Communis (Castor) Seed Oil, Parfum/Fragrance, Polyglyceryl-2 Caprate, Tocopheryl Acetate, Tocopherol, Hydrogenated Palm Glycerides Citrate, Citric Acid


    • Lush - not completely anhydrous but they often use glycerin instead of water as the main diluent, for example: Honey I Washed the Kids Shower Gel: Honey, Glycerine, Sodium Laureth Sulfate, Sodium Cocoamphoacetate, Rosehip; Lotus Flowers And Tiger Lily Infusion, Perfume, Brazilian Orange Oil, Bergamot Oil, Titanium Dioxide, Amyl Cinnamal, *Citronellol, *Geraniol, *Limonene, *Linalool
  • abierose

    Member
    October 24, 2021 at 4:51 am

    Perry said:

    @Sincityfire which products are you referring to? You have a link?

    Sure, here are the products and their ingredient lists:

    • L’Occitane Almond Shower Oil: Vitis Vinifera (grape) Seed Oil, Tipa-laureth Sulfate, Laureth-3, Caprylic/capric Triglyceride, Parfum/fragrance, Cocamide Mea, Propylene Glycol, Sorbitan Oleate, Prunus Amygdalus Dulcis (sweet Almond) Oil, Citrus Aurantium Bergamia (bergamot) Fruit Oil, Helianthus Annuus (sunflower) Seed Oil, Rosmarinus Officinalis (rosemary) Leaf Extract, Tocopherol, Aqua/water, Limonene, Coumarin, Linalool
    • The Body Shop Hemp Hydrating & Protecting Shower Oil: Glycine Soja Oil/Glycine Soja (Soybean) Oil, Caprylic/Capric Triglyceride, Laureth-3, MIPA-Laureth Sulfate, Cannabis Sativa Seed Oil, Laureth-7 Citrate, Ricinus Communis Seed Oil/Ricinus Communis (Castor) Seed Oil, Parfum/Fragrance, Polyglyceryl-2 Caprate, Tocopheryl Acetate, Tocopherol, Hydrogenated Palm Glycerides Citrate, Citric Acid


    • Lush - not completely anhydrous but they often use glycerin instead of water as the main diluent, for example: Honey I Washed the Kids Shower Gel: Honey, Glycerine, Sodium Laureth Sulfate, Sodium Cocoamphoacetate, Rosehip; Lotus Flowers And Tiger Lily Infusion, Perfume, Brazilian Orange Oil, Bergamot Oil, Titanium Dioxide, Amyl Cinnamal, *Citronellol, *Geraniol, *Limonene, *Linalool

    So since the Lush product is anhydrous, does this negate the preservation issues typically associated with formulating with honey? Especially since it is listed as the first ingredient??

    @Perry @PhilGeis @Pharma 

  • PhilGeis

    Member
    October 24, 2021 at 10:57 am

    Apparently Lush thinks it does.

  • Pharma

    Member
    October 24, 2021 at 2:30 pm

    If I’m not mistaken, Lush products have very short shelf lives (and I have the impression that they don’t properly test them).

  • abierose

    Member
    October 24, 2021 at 6:16 pm

    Does the INCI on the product above even follow FDA labeling laws…? “…lotus flower and tiger Lily infusion..” ?