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  • Another non-preserved product…

    Posted by MattTheChemist on March 4, 2022 at 6:11 pm

    I don’t want to be the regulatory police, but I just don’t get how brands get away with things like this. This was sent to me by a client. It is an “essence/toner” that has absolutely no preservative listed. So they are either not disclosing the preservative, or they just don’t have one at all. 

    I know salicins in Willow Bark have anti-microbial properties (for skin), and Sodium Lactate can boost preservation action when combined with an actual broad-spectrum preservative, but neither of these would provide that protection used solo or combined, right? 

    I scratch my head in disbelief when I see shit like this. This is from an Australian brand that has been known to have product spoilage and recalls, largely due to using the “natural” ferments… :D

    I can’t imagine how this would ever pass PET. 


    Pattsi replied 2 years, 3 months ago 4 Members · 6 Replies
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  • OldPerry

    March 4, 2022 at 6:22 pm

    If they don’t test it, they can’t fail! /S

  • MattTheChemist

    March 4, 2022 at 7:01 pm

    @Perry  :D Truth

  • Abdullah

    March 5, 2022 at 1:25 am

    I have seen a patent of niacinamide at pH below 3. Maybe pH of this product is also below 3.

  • Pattsi

    March 6, 2022 at 8:08 am

    It is Australian brand “R…….”, right?

    I’m not very familiar with this brand though, but from what I recalled they ran their marketing on Naturopathy(?), so this product likely have no preservative, if it does they would have to declare it in LOI.

    @MattTheChemist - if your client insists on no preservative then good luck to you Matt, may mother earth protect your formula.

  • MattTheChemist

    March 6, 2022 at 2:53 pm

    @pattsi Yes, that is correct about the “R” name…  ;)

    The client doesn’t want to avoid preservatives. At all. The product was just presented to me and I saw how ridiculous it was and I explained that to her. 

  • Pattsi

    March 7, 2022 at 10:39 am

    Aw you got a good client. Cheers :) :) :)

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