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  • Allantoin and Urea….and advantage of increasing Allantoin…if any?

    Posted by Graillotion on February 13, 2023 at 6:12 pm

    A rainy day in the rain forest, so trying a new hack…of reading every comment @chemicalmatt has ever made…on any topic….YUP….44 pages! 🙂

    So I came across several times (in Matt’s comments)….Urea enhances the ability of allantoin to go into solution. So, I use the standard formula…of using .5% of the water phase as my allantoin inclusion rate. This leads me to two questions.

    1) Is there any research that would indicates there is a benefit of allantoin at higher rates than what I am using?

    2) I do not use the form of Urea that I am sure Matt was referencing. However I do use Hydroxyethyl Urea (aka: Hydrovance). Will this also increase the amount of allantoin that will go in to solution?

    Bonus question: 3) I had also heard (I think….might be confusing this with Salicylic acid ) that betaine also helps in this regard. Is this correct…and if so, what would be the most effective? I use betaine in all formulas, and use Hydrovance in very limited number of formulas.

    Aloha.

    • This discussion was modified 1 year, 2 months ago by  Graillotion.
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    Graillotion replied 1 year, 2 months ago 3 Members · 4 Replies
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  • jemolian

    Member
    February 13, 2023 at 6:40 pm

    Found a mention about Betaine for Allantoin previous when searching for Salicylic Acid.

    • Graillotion

      Member
      February 13, 2023 at 9:04 pm

      Wow… 20X more allantoin with betaine.

      Guess the real question is….where is the sweet spot with Allantoin?

      Thank you….One always hopes they are not losing their mind. 🙂

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  • Abdullah

    Member
    February 13, 2023 at 9:09 pm

    I don’t think it is 20x more allantoin,

    Without betaine it is 0.5%

    With 50% betaine it is 1.4%

    • Graillotion

      Member
      February 13, 2023 at 9:44 pm

      Ah…I was reading their comment on SA! 🙂

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