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  • Cause of age spot in young girl age 21 and ingredients beneficial for it

    Posted by Abdullah on April 13, 2022 at 6:45 am

    My sister recently has got a lot of age spot or liver spot on her face. 
    Here age is 21.

    what can be the cause of age spot ai such young age?

    what ingredients are effective for it? 

    Abdullah replied 2 years ago 5 Members · 18 Replies
  • 18 Replies
  • Camel

    Member
    April 13, 2022 at 8:36 am

    Does she use sunscreen? It could be caused by prolonged exposure to ultraviolet rays from the sun. Using a retinoid may help, as well as daily use of a sunscreen to prevent more of them. 

  • grapefruit22

    Member
    April 13, 2022 at 9:01 am

    You mean something like this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Melasmablemish.jpg
    It’s actually not something unusual even at a young age, it could be caused by the sun or hormones (only a doctor can confirm the cause). Hydroquinone would be the most effective, but I don’t know if it is allowed in your country or what your opinion is about this ingredient. You can also try azelaic acid (10-20%), or peeling with glycolic acid (at least 20-30%). The Ordinary has products with these ingredients.

  • Camel

    Member
    April 13, 2022 at 9:43 am

    Here’s an interesting study

    “Clinical studies of patients with melasma have shown that topical 20 percent azelaic acid is superior to 2 percent hydroquinone and as effective as 4 percent hydroquinone, without the latter’s undesirable side effects… Azelaic acid with tretinoin caused more skin lightening after three months than azelaic acid alone, and a higher proportion of excellent responders at the end of treatment.”

    Based on this, I would suggest using azelaic acid in combination with a retinoid and daily sunscreen, but it’s always best to speak to a doctor first as they know what’s best for you. 

  • Abdullah

    Member
    April 13, 2022 at 10:42 am

    You mean something like this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Melasmablemish.jpg
    It’s actually not something unusual even at a young age, it could be caused by the sun or hormones (only a doctor can confirm the cause). Hydroquinone would be the most effective, but I don’t know if it is allowed in your country or what your opinion is about this ingredient. You can also try azelaic acid (10-20%), or peeling with glycolic acid (at least 20-30%). The Ordinary has products with these ingredients.

    Yes like that but smaller in sizes.

    She is currently using 2% salicylic acid an AM and 10% lactic acid at pH.

    What is your opinion about 2% alpha arbutin? 

  • Abdullah

    Member
    April 13, 2022 at 10:45 am

    Camel said:

    Does she use sunscreen? It could be caused by prolonged exposure to ultraviolet rays from the sun. Using a retinoid may help, as well as daily use of a sunscreen to prevent more of them. 

    She is not in direct sunlight even for 5 minutes per day.

  • grapefruit22

    Member
    April 13, 2022 at 11:45 am

    @Abdullah, I have never found a study confirming its effectiveness. Personally, I had some problems with acne discoloration, a dermatologist advised me to use azelaic acid. Contrary to many other products, I saw a difference after using it (after a few weeks), but I didn’t like the tingling sensation after each use. I had a 20% ointment bought at a pharmacy and it was also quite greasy. The Ordinary and Paula’s Choice have products with azelaic acid that are probably more convenient to use, but I have never tried them. I liked the glycolic acid peels the most, you don’t have to struggle with ointments every day, and you should see at least a small difference after one treatment. Both ingredients are recommended for the treatment of melasma. 10% lactic acid may help, but it seems too weak.

  • Camel

    Member
    April 13, 2022 at 11:47 am

    Abdullah said:
    She is not in direct sunlight even for 5 minutes per day.

    The other main cause of melasma is hormones, but studies have shown that it can even be caused by LED lights from our phone, computer and TV screens. 

  • Abdullah

    Member
    April 13, 2022 at 2:24 pm

    Camel said:

    Abdullah said:
    She is not in direct sunlight even for 5 minutes per day.

    The other main cause of melasma is hormones, but studies have shown that it can even be caused by LED lights from our phone, computer and TV screens. 

    Thank for the link

  • Pattsi

    Member
    April 16, 2022 at 5:29 am

    Abdullah said:

    She is currently using 2% salicylic acid an AM and 10% lactic acid at pH.

    What is your opinion about 2% alpha arbutin? 

    Among many, constantly or too much exfoliation may cause skin irritation and lead to hyperpigmentation. 2% alpha arbutin serum works quite well for young people. If the symptom persists longer than 6 months, should see a doctor.

  • Abdullah

    Member
    April 16, 2022 at 6:47 am

    Pattsi said:

    Abdullah said:

    She is currently using 2% salicylic acid an AM and 10% lactic acid at pH.

    What is your opinion about 2% alpha arbutin? 

    Among many, constantly or too much exfoliation may cause skin irritation and lead to hyperpigmentation. 2% alpha arbutin serum works quite well for young people. If the symptom persists longer than 6 months, should see a doctor.

    She is using salicylic acid for acne for a long time and satisfied. She has recently started using 10% lactic acid to and she is telling me that lactic acid is increasing her acne. 

    Can this be a sign of over exfoliation?

  • ngarayeva001

    Member
    April 16, 2022 at 10:06 am

    Sun! Those are called age spots but they are sunspots. Sunscreen, sunscreen and sunscreen again.

    If she is prone to acne those might also be post-inflammatory pigmentation spots. Maybe she should consider retinol or prescription tretinoin (plus sunscreen). That might be killing two birds with one stone because retinoids are generally helpful with acne and somewhat reduce sun damage. And SPF 50 applied and reapplied very generously.

  • ngarayeva001

    Member
    April 16, 2022 at 10:13 am

    @Abdullah, I have never found a study confirming its effectiveness. Personally, I had some problems with acne discoloration, a dermatologist advised me to use azelaic acid. Contrary to many other products, I saw a difference after using it (after a few weeks), but I didn’t like the tingling sensation after each use. I had a 20% ointment bought at a pharmacy and it was also quite greasy. The Ordinary and Paula’s Choice have products with azelaic acid that are probably more convenient to use, but I have never tried them. I liked the glycolic acid peels the most, you don’t have to struggle with ointments every day, and you should see at least a small difference after one treatment. Both ingredients are recommended for the treatment of melasma. 10% lactic acid may help, but it seems too weak.

    I tried the ordinary’s Azelaic acid. It’s 10% and wasn’t very effective for me (acne). It seems like over the counter anti-acne azelaic acid is made at 20% for a reason.

    If you are in the UK or can order from the UK https://www.dermatica.co.uk/landing/azelaic-acid?focus=&adgroupid=118474980951&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=Azelaic%20Acid%20OTC%20-%20Shopping&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=&gclid=Cj0KCQjw0umSBhDrARIsAH7FCodzPOXiJA3gScn574P1W4Qs0It5amJMabU9zqDu85ebWieLC5JJDNkaAi7dEALw_wcB

    This one has a pleasant texture unlike skinoren and other OTCs bought in pharmacies. 

  • Abdullah

    Member
    April 16, 2022 at 11:37 am

    Sun! Those are called age spots but they are sunspots. Sunscreen, sunscreen and sunscreen again.

    If she is prone to acne those might also be post-inflammatory pigmentation spots. Maybe she should consider retinol or prescription tretinoin (plus sunscreen). That might be killing two birds with one stone because retinoids are generally helpful with acne and somewhat reduce sun damage. And SPF 50 applied and reapplied very generously.

    The problem here is that everything human made is low quality, even drugs. 

    I have very good sales of my products not because i make very good products. But because other products here have very low quality and has very little effects even drugs.

    So unless i make the product, i don’t think i can find a quality retinol product here. And i don’t think i can make a stable retinol product too. 

  • ngarayeva001

    Member
    April 16, 2022 at 12:14 pm

    It is very pricy but in case you want to have an option

    https://www.myskinrecipes.com/shop/en/anti-wrinkle/9221-retinol.html

    I keep mine in the freezer.

  • Abdullah

    Member
    April 16, 2022 at 12:43 pm

    It is very pricy but in case you want to have an option

    https://www.myskinrecipes.com/shop/en/anti-wrinkle/9221-retinol.html

    I keep mine in the freezer.

    I think It is water, air and light that reduces it’s effectiveness. 

    How does freezer help it’s stability? 

  • ngarayeva001

    Member
    April 16, 2022 at 12:51 pm

    The ingredient is in the freezer . Regarding product stability, you add BHA and BHT and put the product in a non transparent airless pump. It oxidises, but slower.

  • Abdullah

    Member
    April 16, 2022 at 1:36 pm

    The ingredient is in the freezer . Regarding product stability, you add BHA and BHT and put the product in a non transparent airless pump. It oxidises, but slower.

    Got it
    Thanks

  • Abdullah

    Member
    April 16, 2022 at 1:36 pm

    The ingredient is in the freezer . Regarding product stability, you add BHA and BHT and put the product in a non transparent airless pump. It oxidises, but slower.

    Got it
    Thanks

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