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Where’s the hold
Hi All,
I am making a water based pomade. I heat my water and oils separately at 160 degrees for 20 minutes. Emulsification is working perfectly, product is not separating. I am adding Carboxymethyl Cellulose (CMC) after emulsification with the intention that this will give the product hold. I am using beeswax as well, but don’t want to use too much as it will be too difficult to wash out. I’m using about 15% beeswax. Anyway, the purpose for the CMC was to be a substitute for PVP. I looked for PVP alternatives, and found Gum Arabic and CMC. I must be doing something wrong, or misunderstanding what CMC is supposed to be doing. As a thickener, it’s great, but it adds no stickyness, which is what I’m looking for. Any suggestions?
Thanks
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8 Replies
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Just a note, which is to say, we use degrees Celsius in chemistry. Unfortunately I can’t help with your problem since it’s an area outside my experience.
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what you need is a film-forming resin, which gum arabic and CMC are not
most resins suitable for haircare are related to PVP, and many of them have no effect on viscosity at all
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Thanks Bill, Anything other than PVP that will do the trick? Something easy to purchase online maybe?
Thanks
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There are plenty of alternatives, but they’re all almost impossible to buy online, since they are for professionals/corporations.
What are you trying to accomplish with your pomade project?
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I’m basically making it for myself, maybe give it to a few friends. It’s a creative outlet, I like making it and would like for it to have more hold like commercial products.
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PVP K30 is available on eBay USA where is is called povidone (not povidone iodine) and UK (as PVP).
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you could also try alibaba.com; a number of suppliers claim to sell in lots of 1kg or less, and some claim to sell VP/VA copolymer too, in similar quantities (these are the two generic non-proprietary resins widely used in this kind of product)
as always, be wary when ordering things from China!
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Why not PVP?
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