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Lip Gloss experts
Hi experts!
I’m trying to make a simple crystal clear, extreme gloos/shine lipgloss. Wanting to stay away from the usual Mineral oil based things so have been testing Versagel ME.
I need this gloss to stay put, and stay shiny especially in hot & humid conditions.So far I cant get this Versagel to work at all. Have tried combinations with Castor/MCt/Silicones and different heating methods. All result in separation and/or a lumpy mess. Is there a specific way of heating this material? I’ve emailed Penreco several times to no avail, I guess as I’m in a different country and not a direct customer they cant help.
Can anyone point me towards some clear directions how to work with this material?
Many Thanks
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It’s in their literature somewhere, but what you need to do with any versagel is to open up/relax the block polymer chain so that other oils incorporate properly. If I remember correctly from the patent and using it several years ago, this involves heating to 230 - 240F or higher, then a slow cooldown while stirring.I found this from a quick search. I have no idea if it works or not: -
Some ingredients are just not worth the time and effort to work with … this is a sticky mess. I would spend some time looking for an easier ingredient to formulate with. If I recall properly, you need to heat the Versagel to 85C, by itself, then add it to your other base ingredients, also heated to 85C and then mix.
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Thanks Guys. I’m begining to think the Hydrogenated Polyisobutene version of Versagel is going to be more trouble than the claim is worth
The Versagel M is fine to work with but I lose my MO free claim. Have used Polybutene in samples, but to get the result I need ends up with a cloudy sample.
I LOVE the Zeniglos, but it’s price heavy for this product in the quantities that I can buy for short runs. I’ve experimetned with Polyamide in the past, does anyone know a distributor for this now?
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