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leave on hair mask
I made hair mask(leave on) with this formula
water 75%
carbomer 0.25%
TEA 0.1%
PEG12-dimethicone
propylene glycole 12%
glycerin 10%
EDTZ 0.05
preservativeI dont have oil phase in it however I want to make it opaque, Can I use opulyn 301? or another way?
and another problem is that its durability is low , how can I improve it? -
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You can try Acusol OP305 as well, I use it for my very high pH products. So I am sure the formulation seems to be fine to accept this as an opacifier.
Though I am still unsure what you mean by durability here??????????? -
it means that after 10 minutes after using u feel nothing on ur hair…
opulyn 301 is ok? -
I thinks it(opulyn 301) is just useful for shower gels or shampoos
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You want to use it as an opacifier or a film former??????????
I feel that Opulyn might (very remotely though) feel heavier compared to Acusol OP305, but try it and see it for yourself. I might be wrong too.PS: Opulyn is more viscous compared to Acusol OP305, so you might look at percentage also in the formulation. -
opacifier
what If I add cetearyl alocoh? -
Acusol and Opulyn are emulsifiers and the fatty alcohol wouldn’t work as an opacifier.
Do some trials and better have a first hand info.Cheers
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What degree of opacity? >opacifier
You can add small percentages of fatty alcohol…like Cetearyl Alcohol, Cetyl alcohol, Cetyl Palmitate, etc. and a little emulsifier like Glyceryl Stearate to cloud the gel. Used in formulas with carbomer and TEA. These types of gel-creams dissipate quickly in the hair.
Check ingredients in eye gel formulas. Some eye gels are very transparent and some are cloudy.
All the very opaque leave-in hair gel-cream I have seen has small percentages of fatty alcohols and emulsifiers.
Example ingredients list:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-jS5VZhSj_mI/Ti-6GtgSfVI/AAAAAAAAAV0/jsRLgweQpjQ/s1600/LustiBraids2.jpgI have done tests just using Water, Xanthan Gum (about 1%) and Emulsifying Wax NF (about 1.5%). Agitate on low speed. And a very opaque cream resulted that was non-greasy. It had a silky finish, but the cream was not firm. To firm the cream slightly I would have add a small percentage of an additional gum or some other thickener.
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@tonyh not very much opaque I mean cloudy.. I added cetearyl alcohol after above hair mask produced,it becomes cloudy but emulsion seperates..
another issue is that I want to spary it but viscosity is high… -
@nasrin: try a new base formula. instead of using carbomer and tea, try something like BTMS [Behentrimonium Methosulphate (and) Cetearyl Alcohol]. The glycerin level is high in your formula so the spray on liquid is going to attract moisture to the hair making it soft. This type of hair leave-in works well on dry brittle hair.
For leave-in with less softening, try something like Polysorbate-80 coupled with a quaternary you can better control.
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I tried this formula too
a water 70%/ carbomer 0.2%/ weath germ extract/ propylen glycol 5%/ methyl paraben
b liquid paraffin 5%/ polysorbate80 1%/ beeswax 1%/ vaselin 1%/ jojoba oil 0.8%/ cetyl alcohol 1.5%/ TEA 0.2%/ peg12-dimethicone 0.5%/ propyl paraben 0.1%
still I cant spray it (viscosity is high), but the emulsion isnt stable after several days( it seperates)
maybe its better to decrease carbomer again and increase polysorbate 80
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@tonyh I think its difficult to have a hair mask with carbomer which I can spray it.
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For leave-in lotion in squirt bottle. Increase polysorbate80 to 4%.
For leave-in spray replace the liquid paraffin, beeswax and vaselin, with oil. Jojoba oil at 2% can be the only oil or share it with another oil. Remove the carbomer and TEA, and increase polysorbate80 to 3 or 4% (depending on oil percentage).
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There was a spray some years back that was a slight gel liquid with alcohol and water. It was a setting lotion. Can’t remember the name at the moment. >I think its difficult to have a hair mask with carbomer which I can spray it.
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If I remove beeswax,vaselin and carbomer , it becomes so thin…
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And how do you propose to handle the beeswax or just suspend it in the carbomer slurry?????
Carbopol has a yield value (a resistance to flow), I am not sure if this is the right polymer for your spray. -
Yes. >If I remove beeswax,vaselin and carbomer , it becomes so thin…
If you wish to keep them, add them at 0.1% each for liquid paraffin, beeswax and vaselin. For carbomer 0.05% and tea 0.05%
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@millia carbomer is ok I use lubrizol formulation
https://www.lubrizol.com/PersonalCare/E-0006-Ethnic-Hair-Lotion.pdf
@tonyh Ok I will try 0.1%
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hello. you seem to be so far away from a spray, leave on hair mask. It really is a very professional job, and that unfortunately does not come free.
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@nasrins - keep the leave-in spray water percentage at 80% and above.
This is a good example with Carbomer and Triethanolamine.
Spray Hair Gel:
https://www.lubrizol.com/PersonalCare/S-G0010-Spray-Hair-Gel.pdf -
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