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@chemicalmatt, out of curiosity, I am assuming the dyes you recommended are safe to use on fur, are they also proven safe for ingestion? Some companies are now promoting conditioners containing quats like BTMS for dogs. Since quats attaches to the fur, when a dog grooms are they ingesting some? Chronic low level exposure of quats cant be very good for the animal.
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Dyes are not met to be ingested, keep in mind that animals self groom. They should not be exposed to chemicals for the sake of their owners vanity.
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There is a higher grade that is close to 100% pure that is used by the semiconductor industry, it is very expensive and not necessary for our application.
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My supplier Belle Chemical in Montana also sells food grade, he told me it was the same as the technical grade, It is used to make hominy.
I have come across some poor quality technical grade that would not completely dissolve in water. Hopefully, you have the good one. -
@GeorgeBenson you need to buy technical grade 99.9% pure. The kind you get a the hardware store is gray instead of the normal white color, not the same thing. It has to ship ground… I would contact the University of Hawaii, they should have a chemistry lab, find the lab manager info and contact him regarding a supplier list.
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@Graillotion, Thank you for this vendor info and sharing your ice cream maker for making lotion. I really appreciate your comments in this forum.
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Our line of cleansing and nourishing stones elevates the experience of hair care by focusing on total head wellness—not just hair but also scalp and mind.
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1-Your mixing seems fine
2-no
5-Maybe something is wrong with your ingredient.Below is a. conditioner formula from Making Cosmetic,
Phase A
Distilled Water (diluent) 79.6 %
Guar Gum (thickener/conditioner) 0.5 %
Glycerin (humectant) 2 %
Propylene Glycol (humectant) 2 %
Phase BCetyl Alcohol (thickener/softener) 3 %
BTMS 25 (conditioning
emulsifier blend) 4 %
PEG-150 Distearate
(thickener/emulsifier) 1 %
Meadowfoam Seed Oil (emollient) 3 %
Olive Oil (emollient) 1 %
Cyclo-Dimethicone (emollient) 1 %
Phase C
Vitamin E Acetate (active ingredient) 0.5 %
Provitamin B5 (active ingredient) 1 %
Potassium Sorbate (preservative) 0.3 %
Paraben-DU (preservative) 0.5 %
Fragrance 0.5 %
Citric Acid (acidulant) 0.1 %
Method
Dissolve the guar gum in the distilled water by mixing well. Then add other ingredients of phase A in
order. Heat phase A to 150F/60C. Heat phase B to the same temperature. Add phase B to phase A and
stir well. Remove beakers from the heat. When cool add phase C in order and stir again. Adjust the ph
value to 4 to 5.5 with citric acid.
Properties
Rich hair conditioner with precious emollients, the conditioning ingredient is the behentrimonium
who is combined with an emulsifier, plus the cationic guar gum. Vitamin E acetate acts as an antioxidant on the hair. -
@GeorgeBenson Jedwards is very reputable, best quality, and QA documents.
I never buy oils from companies who do not have a lab and test the oils themselves. -
Eurofins has a food lab, but they are probably not inexpensive. Call UC Davis Analytical Lab
Phone: (530) 752-0147 They might be able to help you, or send you to the right lab, they do a lot of testing for the food industry. Also if you google food labs around Fresno CA, there are several independent food labs in that area like https://safefoodalliance.com that may offer that kind of testing. -
Oops! not sure why, I thought it was a powered surfactant…
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@ngarayeva001 Thank you, I will order some. I always wanted to try to formulate a powder face wash. If it is too mild I can always add some SCI.
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@ngarayeva001 Thank you! I always wanted to try disodium cocoyl glutamate and could never find a US reseller.
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I agree, after reading this article, it is free news…. For quality journalisms you have to pay a monthly fee like for NY Times and the Washington Post.
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and make money!
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@Csears, reducing the thickeners like the clay will help. Keep in mind that you need to adjust the PH to 5, I also recommend a chelator. Last, silicone is not natural, but I read that it performs well for Afro-textured hair.
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@emma1985 Very nice videos, I will have to try making one of your formulations.
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@MattTheChemist you are so right!
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In 2006 the verdict was overturned, see article below. I am not allowed to copy and paste this article, but if you google Ivar Malmstrom all the info will pop up. Arch Chemicals is now owned by Lonza.
https://www.cosmeticsdesign.com/Article/2006/07/04/New-Jersey-cosmetic-companies-battle-over-trade-secrets -
https://www.morelaw.com/verdicts/case.asp?n=2:02-cv-03148-JAP-MCA&s=NJ&d=27527
Date: 03-08-2004
Case Style: Arch Personal Care Products, L.P. v. Brooks Industries, Inc., et al.
Case Number: 2:02-cv-03148-JAP-MCA
Judge: Joel A. Pisano
Court: United States District Court for the District of New Jersey
Plaintiff’s Attorney: Joseph A. Boyle of Kelley, Drye & Warren, L.L.P., Parsippany, New Jersey
Defendant’s Attorney: Walter John Fleischer, Jr. of Drinker, Biddle & Shanley, L.L.P., Florham, New Jersey
Description:
Arch Personal Care Products announced that a jury in the U.S. District Court for the District of New Jersey has awarded it approximately $7 million in damages after finding, among other things, that Ivar Malmstrom, Jr., had breached his non-compete obligations to Arch Personal Care Products. Mr. Malmstrom undertook these obligations in connection with Arch’s November 2000 purchase of the personal care intermediates business of Brooks Industries. Mr. Malmstrom had been co-owner and president of Brooks.
The jury found that Mr. Malmstrom had assisted in the creation of, provided funding to, and was participating in the business activities of Active Concepts, a company formed shortly after Arch’s acquisition of the Brooks business. The jury also found that Mr. Malmstrom violated federal trademark law, and that he and Active Concepts had infringed on Arch’s TRF(TM) trademark.
In addition, the jury found that certain asset transfers by Mr. Malmstrom to his wife violated New Jersey’s Fraudulent Transfer Act. Judge Joel Pisano has enjoined the Malmstroms from transferring or encumbering these assets and has appointed a receiver to take charge of the assets.
Judge Pisano had previously found that Mr. Malmstrom’s assistance to Active Concepts constituted contempt of two Court Orders issued in July 2002 that enjoined Mr. Malmstrom from competing against Arch Personal Care. An award of sanctions against Mr. Malmstrom in connection with the contempt finding is expected shortly.
Arch Personal Care also has a New Jersey state court case pending against Active Concepts and several former Brooks’ employees asserting misappropriation of trade secrets and other claims.
Defendants have thirty days from the entry of a judgment to appeal.
Arch Personal Care Products, L.P., which is headquartered in South Plainfield, New Jersey, is a business unit within the Treatment Products business segment of Arch Chemicals, Inc. It develops and sells active ingredients to both the skin and hair care segments of the cosmetic and toiletries industries.
Headquartered in Norwalk, Connecticut, Arch Chemicals, Inc. (NYSE:ARJ) is a global specialty chemicals company with $1 billion in annual sales. Together with its subsidiaries, Arch has 3,000 employees and manufacturing and customer support centers in North America, South America, Europe, Asia and Africa. Arch and its subsidiaries have leadership positions in three business segments — Treatment Products, Microelectronic Materials and Performance Products — and they serve leading customers in these markets with forward-looking solutions to meet their chemical needs. For more information, visit http://www.archchemicals.com.
Except for historical information contained herein, the information set forth in this communication contains forward-looking statements that are based on management’s beliefs, certain assumptions made by management and management’s current expectations, estimates and projections about the markets and economy in which Arch and its various businesses operate. Words such as “anticipates,” “believes,” “estimates,” “expects,” “forecasts,” “opines,” “plans,” “predicts,” “projects,” “should,” “targets,” “will,” and variations of such words and similar expressions are intended to identify such forward-looking statements. These statements are not guarantees of future performance and involve certain risks, uncertainties and assumptions (“Future Factors”), which are difficult to predict. Therefore, actual outcomes and results may differ materially from what is expected or forecasted in such forward-looking statements. The Company undertakes no obligation to update publicly any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of future events, new information or otherwise. Future Factors which could cause actual results to differ materially from those discussed include but are not limited to: general economic and business and market conditions; lack of economic recovery in 2004 in the U.S.; lack of moderate growth or recession in European economies; increases in interest rates; economic conditions in Asia; worsening economic and political conditions in Venezuela; strengthening of the U.S. dollar against foreign currencies; customer acceptance of new products; efficacy of new technology; changes in U.S. laws and regulations; increased competitive and/or customer pressure; the Company’s ability to maintain chemical price increases; higher-than-expected raw material costs for certain chemical product lines; increased foreign competition in the calcium hypochlorite markets; lack of continued recovery in the semiconductor industry; unfavorable court, arbitration or jury decisions; the supply/demand balance for the Company’s products, including the impact of excess industry capacity; failure to achieve targeted cost-reduction programs; unsuccessful entry into new markets for electronic chemicals; capital expenditures in excess of those scheduled; environmental costs in excess of those projected; the occurrence of unexpected manufacturing interruptions/outages at customer or company plants; reduction in expected government contract orders and/or the failure to renew or extend the U.S. government contract for hydrazine propellants; unfavorable weather conditions for swimming pool use; inability to expand sales in the professional pool dealer market; and gains or losses on derivative instruments.
Outcome: Plaintiff’s verdict for $7 million.
Plaintiff’s Experts: Unknown
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@MattTheChemist, you are right, it is more than a circumstance. A LinkedIn search reveals a family business; Ivar Malmstrom is Chairman, and Susanne Malmstrom is VP of Active Concepts which owns Active Micro Technologies.
Brett Malmstrom is Sales Manager, and Maggie Ghanem is Manager at Sample Formulator Shop, both previously worked at Active Concepts. There is no connection on LinkedIn between the 2 companies, but the people are connected.
Active Concept has an interesting history.
http://https//www.morelaw.com/verdicts/case.asp?n=2:02-cv-03148-JAP-MCA&s=NJ&d=27527 -
Happy Birthday Perry! Thank you for this forum.
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New Direction Aromatic, they have Spanish Sunflower oil.
https://www.newdirectionsaromatics.ca/products/carrier-oils/sunflower-organic-carrier-oil.html -
Polyquats are water soluble, usually not compatible with a fat soluble bar (the bar itself is not an emulsion). In a traditional conditioner they are hydrated in the water phase before mixing with oil phase to create an emulsion.
I have never seen them used in a conditioner bars. In traditional conditioners, they are always used in combination with cationic surfactants, their effect is much milder.Polyquats are used in shampoo bars, and I use them, but lately I have been wondering about their effectiveness in bars because they are not hydrated first. I should do a knock off experiment.
I am not a cosmetic chemist, I have a biochem degree.
My take is that the majority of currently available ingredients were developed for use in traditional shampoos and conditioners. When making bars you are in a way repurposing those ingredients.
I usually start with a very basic formula that works (follow the crowd, read product labels made by professionals) then modify; remove and add ingredients, decrease and increase concentrations to understand their effects. Keep experimenting!
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Also, unlike engineering and physics, chemistry is like cooking. You do not want to test your ingredients separately or in small groups unless you are doing QC. All basic functional ingredients need to be present in your starter formula to be able to test it and make modifications accordingly. Cationic surfactants are necessary functional ingredients to make conditioner, just like you would not try to learn how to make tomato soup without having tomatoes and liquid in your pot.