[shesha]

Thank you Mark I will try reducing the gums to 2% total and eliminating the carrageenan.

[shesha]

Thank you so much for your comment
@Mark Broussard it was very helpful. There is a product that I have tried that uses those natural polymers and has worked to define my curls and left barley any flaking

Ingredients are

Purified Water, Aloe vera juice, Glycerin, Sodium PCA, Bamboo extract, Sea kelp extract, Silk amino acids, Panthenol, Xanthan gum, Dehydroxanthan gum, Fragrance, Paraben-free preservative

I like this product however they do not ship to quebec. I tried it while visiting ontario. What did they do different? why the product works with minimal flaking?
Thank you.

[shesha]

Thank you for the formula. I do not have many of the ingredients listed in that formulation I will have to order some ingredients. In the mean time are there no % in which i could use the gums and not produce flaking or white residue. What if i heat the water and then add the gums to the water?

[shesha]

Thank you chrisbaysauli but how did you dissolve the gums in the water? Is there a special technique? Because i have tried dispersing the gums into water and that created pieces within my gel that were not properly hydrated.

[shesha]

Also I have tried many gels with Carbomer as those gels are easy to find. they do not define the curls, and the results are undesirable.The fact is not to hold to natural like “God” @ (microformulation) but it is about finding alternatives to those ingredients that give favourable results to certain hair types and non favourable results to kinkier hair types. You say Carbomer will blow them away. This is not the case at all when referring to kinkier hair types.

[shesha]

The reason the gums are more prefered over the carbomer is their ability to define kinky hair. The gums result in a slimy, textured product that is not only moisturizing and glids through the hair strands, but also holds the desired style without stiffness. Carbomer gels simply dont have the same effect. Also the gums being natural is a plus.
I guess my question now is are there any suggestions regarding how
I can reduce the amount of flakiness and white residue? and what is the prefereed method of hydrating and incorporating the gums within the water? Was my method at least
correct?
Thank you for all your feedback.

[shesha]

I have tried to up the glycerin amount to 15% and adjusted the water. However, the gel was still flaking and left white residue.
Is it my process in creating the gel?
The polymers that iam using were said to not result in flaking or white residue.

[shesha]

Final note. When i did reduce the amount of polymers the gel was not as thick and did not define my curls. I have think kinky hair. How do i reduce the amount of polymers and still achieve a thick gel that defines the curls with out using pvp or carbomer?

[shesha]

Thank you for your advice. Chemist 77. The gel is more of a curl defining gel. And i am not sure what you mean by cutting down by 25%.
the polymers added together are 4.5% in the formulation.