[Ryoo]

Hey John, hope you’re well. You have been very helpful in recent posts and I’ve enjoyed your guidance. Apologies for the lengthly understanding process, your patience is much appreciated!
Nonetheless, I’ve been reading from the guidance you’ve given me, and searching for the answers to my last post, but haven’t had much luck, so thought I would ask here.
If these questions are no longer open to advice, then please drop me a pm so I can continue with this experiment. Would be great to speak a more fluid conversation.
Otherwise would love to have some help.

[Ryoo]

Hi Belassi, just read about this, from looking at the photos its a horrible thing to happen! 
What about shaving foam, does that cause an issue, just curious as I use that.

Do you know if there is an eco friendly foam that fits my needs with whats been recommended above?

Thanks for bringing that to my attention, unbelievable..

[Ryoo]

Hi all, hope everyone is well.
Was hoping if you could help me answer a few more questions please?

From the items mentioned above, how much foam would they create? I’d like to create maybe 4 inches of thick foam and wanted to ask what could I add to achieve this? There was a previous post about thickening agents and shaving foam, but could anybody advise please?
Also, with these foam bubbles, what could I add to make them last longer, maybe a few hours at least?? But something that is not going to cause any toilet to block?

Hope someone could help with these questions!
Thanks
Ryoo

[Ryoo]

Wow, prices are something else!

Thanks for the heads up.

Do you have a recommendation on the amount of each product to use? (more cocamide, more stearyl 21??)

I’ll take note and let you know once I have everything. Thanks

[Ryoo]

Great.

I’ve been sent a data sheet for Stearyl 25, asking if it is the correct type. Are all Stearyl 25 the same? Should I continue with that or the Stearyl 21??

[Ryoo]

I just wanted to let you know that I have just found cocamide MEA, great success (ignore my last post).

Should I buy that, and the Stearyl 21 which is available and then the FC&D? Would that be ok to make these capsules?

As I mentioned, I really want to ensure I have a good ‘solid’ foam from the capsule, and so hope these ingredients can create it. I noticed yesterday, my supermarket bought capsule gives little foam. That’s something I’d like to improve on my version.

Would I also need to purchase the paper wrap? Maybe you could advise on next steps before I purchase so I know what’s in store?

Ever so thankful for your advice and guidance.

[Ryoo]

It’s proving difficult for those items. stearyl 21-ethoxylate and FD&C Blue are good. But even cocamide MEA is not easy to find.
Do you have any recommended suppliers? Not looking to buy a tonne however!?

[Ryoo]

Hi John,

Finding these aren’t easy, but persevering.
Are there any additional ingredients required for this? Would these ingredients bring in the element of medium thick foam and the cleaning properties?

Thanks

[Ryoo]

Great!
I’ll check again once on my personal laptop. But I believe it was this I presumed was Stearyl 5-ethoxylate?
http://www.bonnymans.co.uk/products/product.php?categoryID=1417&productID=6498

[Ryoo]

Ok great.

Could you check these for me please?

FD&C Blue No1 (CI42090
https://www.thesoapkitchen.co.uk/cgi-bin/sh000002.pl?WD=ci42090%20no1%20blue%20fd&PN=fcf%2dblue%2dpowder%2ehtml#SID=47

Strearyl 5-ethoxylate
Could you tell me the alternative name if one? As I cant find a place that have this?

[Ryoo]

It’s just something I’d like to attempt as a hands on hobby. All of your help is so appreciated as well, looking forward to making it.

Thanks for the 21-ethoxylate John. That site doesnt seem to have he 5-ethoxylate though.

Which of these make the foam then?

You reckon it’ll be an easy case of mixing together right proportions then making it into a tablet??

[Ryoo]

I have found a few suppliers. However, they dont call their items those specific names. For example, I’ve found a ‘fatty alcohol ethoxylate’ and ‘cetyl stearyl alcohol’ (boosts foam, which I’d be interested in doing I think)

Is this because there are various types of ethoxylates, and depending on the number, it is a different type?? Noticed here http://www.saibabasurfactants.com/products.html

I also found two UK suppliers, but having searched, believe they only supply the stearyl 5-ethoxylate;

http://www.bonnymans.co.uk/

https://mistralni.co.uk/

[Ryoo]

Hi John, Happy New Year!

I’m finding this difficult to understand in all honesty. Is there a simplified way you could explain to me what I need to make one please? I’m not quite getting what it is I need or what to do next? Thanks

[Ryoo]

Got you. Is option 1 more than the  two ingredients you mentioned?
- stearyl 25-ethoxylate
-  stearyl 5-ethoxylate

Do these include the bleach that kills bacteria, as well as the chemical to create the bubbles? I guess ultimately thats what a toilet tablets purpose is right?

Thanks

[Ryoo]

What would the ingredients be? I should give it a go.

See I thought it was like making a bath bomb, but more complex. I’ve actually got some ingredients from bath bombs from a while back.. citric acid, SLS, Sodium Bicarbonate and cream of tartar. Any of them of use??

[Ryoo]

@johnb incredible. That makes perfect sense. Would I be able to make one at home? Or something similar that creates bubbles and a nice smell to begin with??