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  • Rimshah

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    July 18, 2019 at 6:37 pm in reply to: Cleaner using Castile soap

    I didn’t experiment yet but went through various websites and concluded that there would be a very slight difference in pH.

  • Rimshah

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    July 18, 2019 at 11:48 am in reply to: Cleaner using Castile soap

    Okay, thank you :)

    I have found a few studies claiming that skin balances its pH naturally within 15 to 90 minutes if using rinse-off product, only leave-on product damages the acid mantle. However, I have found more studies regarding increasing the pH even following rinse off products. Do you have any helpful information to share?

  • Rimshah

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    July 17, 2019 at 2:45 pm in reply to: Surfactants destroy lipid barrier

    Yeah, those articles were backed by scientific researches. 

    Sure, I will have a look into the study you suggested. Thank you for your suggestion!

  • Rimshah

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    July 17, 2019 at 2:05 pm in reply to: Surfactants destroy lipid barrier

    yeah I have heard that about EWG, that’s why I always look at their sources. And I don’t trust EWG completely either. I actually go through various sources to make an opinion. There are a lot of issues with FDA also, aspartame is only one example.

    I said SCI is available in powder form not in liquid form. I thought powder form might be easier to work with, obviously not as easy as liquid form. As I want to make liquid cleaners, I will keep in mind your suggestions. You are very helpful, thank you. :)

  • Rimshah

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    July 17, 2019 at 1:32 pm in reply to: Surfactants destroy lipid barrier

    @ngarayeva001 As far as research is concerned, I go through sciencedirect, CIR and ewg (if having CIR as one of the resources) websites, I don’t trust FDA completely. I went through a few articles on sciencedirect which claimed absorption of surfactants (sulphate only) and came up with HMPs as a solution. Thanks for your opinion, now I assume it’s may not be the case with sulphate free surfactants. 

    Your experience with glusoside is very helpful for me, I would skip that now. SCI is also available in powder form, i wanted to use it because of its good cleaning, mildness and low pH. SCI powder is also difficult to work with? What’s your opinion about SLSa (ecocert approved)? Only two surfactants (SLSa and DSCADA) would work well? I find your suggested anionic surfactants a bit irritant, but my research into these two surfactants is very little, I would read more about them.

    Thanks for suggesting polyquat 10, it seems great. I don’t want any buildup on my scalp so I may consider adding it in my conditioner.

  • Rimshah

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    July 17, 2019 at 7:53 am in reply to: review my formula for a mild shampoo for dry hair

    Thanks a ton @Perry and @ngarayeva001

  • Rimshah

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    July 16, 2019 at 9:57 pm in reply to: Conditioning agents in shampoo

    @ngarayeva001 and @Perry thank you for your answers. Your help is greatly appreciated!

  • Rimshah

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    July 16, 2019 at 9:53 pm in reply to: Surfactants destroy lipid barrier

    Should I add HMPs to my surfactants to prevent absorption into the skin or surfactants should be used without HMPs? Which way is safer?

  • Rimshah

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    July 16, 2019 at 8:51 pm in reply to: review my formula for a mild shampoo for dry hair

    It’s really an old discussion, but I am eager to learn.

    Perry, you didn’t ask to eliminate Shea butter as well or it does work in shampoo?

  • Rimshah

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    July 16, 2019 at 5:48 pm in reply to: Conditioning agents in shampoo

    Perry, what do you think about saponins in oats? 
    I have read it provides good mild cleaning. I have used oats powder for washing my face and I feel it works well. 

  • Rimshah

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    July 16, 2019 at 5:12 pm in reply to: Conditioning agents in shampoo

    Thanks for your help Gunther. 

  • Rimshah

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    July 16, 2019 at 4:49 pm in reply to: Conditioning agents in shampoo

    Sorry, I meant non-toxic product, using most of the ecocert and cosmos approved ingredients. 

    Soapnuts are very difficult to deal with as they are eyes’ irritant, otherwise I guess it was the good natural cleansing option. I am planning to make shampoo using surfactants.

  • Rimshah

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    July 16, 2019 at 12:28 pm in reply to: Conditioning agents in shampoo

    Thank you for sharing your experience with me :)

    As I am trying to make natural products, now I will consider to add isoamyl laurate (silicone alternative) in my shampoo. 

  • Rimshah

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    July 16, 2019 at 7:07 am in reply to: Conditioning agents in shampoo

    Thank you for your reply. :)

    It means there is no need to add oils and botanical extracts in the shampoo. Shampoos are made milder on the basis of mild surfactants only. These should be added in the conditioner only. 

    I don’t want build-up on the scalp so I am afraid to add cationic polymers and silicones in my shampoo. But I have read that Guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride does not build up, is it true? 

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