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i agree that ACVis wonderful for so many purposes but i jsut cant tolerate the taste for a regular basis! ty anyway- open to more suggestions

[probioticqueen]

thank you all for the advice. did not realize its not an appropriate topic. Il llook into the herbs

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No, Sorry for confusion was asking chemsits your thoughts on which supplement for personal intake fordigestive issues? sthought this would be perfect forum to ask since youre all experts in chemistry and so many suppleemtns are junk - if you can recoomend a dosage or a brand that actuall yworks?

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Im curious what your thoughts are on this product:

https://livia123.liviaone.com/store/home-page/probiotic-topical-skin-ringworm-mrsa-staph-rash-infection-yeast.html

They claim that they have 12 different strains yet its in water so therefore it cant be live bacteria  or the water would kill the bacteria right?

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@perry and others thanks for your responses-  FYI he was not trying to politely decline- he reached out to me and subsequently sent me 3 emails.

I have an extensive business background, specifically in financial services and have dealt with many consultants as well as attorneys in the past 20 years and this particular “consultant” was very pushy and alerted a red flag for me. When I did some of my own research I was informed to watch out for this particular guy/firm as they have been shady in the past and have not fulfilled on their promises leaving people with money out of pocket and no product.

I did not have a negative experience other than being turned off by his aggressiveness and persistence to provide a retainer I just wanted to caution others out there.

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I agree and understand all of your points and thank you all for the feedback. I am still wondering then, is it possible to use probiotics in some form (ferments?) in skin care that actually are effective for fighting the bad bacteria- or at the very least, good for the skin? in other words, so many of the big name companies like clinique, estee lauder, loreal that are now claiming that the probiotics in their products are effective for reduction redness and smoothing skin etc  are simply adding in the extracts of bifidus?

There is a manufacturer called Chrisal that claims that their “stabilized” spor form probiotics are wha cleared staff infections in hospitals when used as a cleaning product, so they claim that same technology of the spore form probiotic of bacillus genus can also help with skin issues when applied topically.

 does this make sense?

https://chrisalusa.com/faq/

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I have to ask then, how is Bonicel and CLR being marketed to manufacturers as an ingredient in skin care that has proven to:

The inclusion of Bonicel was found to: 

Decrease the number of coarse skin lines by 20.57%

Show a 17% increase in the number of subjects showing improvement of eye area fine lines & wrinkles

Show a 8.33% increase in the number of subjects showing improvement of under eye puffiness

Increase skin hydration by 7.13%

Decrease skin shadows by 7.09%

Increase skin smoothness by 4.33%

Increase skin elasticity by 3.11%

[probioticqueen]

also my understanding is that its Bacillus coagulans genus with a pH of 4.0-4.5 

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@chemist77 thank you what is CLR?

@markbroussard no intention of making any claims - I am fully aware of the FDA regulations and this is indeed a cosmetic not an OTC- I just need the appropriate source to help indicate the correct strains to use that can help with skin disorders.