[phil92]

I can bring the it down to 5! Anything else?

I could also go up on the optiphen plus slightly to be safe?

In the past I’ve used tetrasodium glutamate diacetate as a chelating agent but it really messed with the viscosity in this formula, so I brought in sodium phytate to replace it, I know it’s not as effective, but I would imagine that with the optiphen at 1% and sodium phytate at .25% I’m good?

Thanks!

[phil92]

I have read a few different discussions here about this as well. have tried a couple of different tweaks to no luck. :/

[phil92]

Ya, I wanted to have some extra eyes on the formula to make sure I wasn’t missing anything there. I’m trying to recreate the problem, and trying to get to the bottom of what happened in the process for it to get contaminated. Thanks for your help

[phil92]

Looking for a natural alternative here.

[phil92]

5.5 !

[phil92]

@chemicalmatt

Thanks for the feedback! I actually ordered some Disodium Cocoamphodiacetate last week to add to the formula. The idea is to remove the Decyl Glucoside. I’ll also be removing the sodium PCA and the oils (expect for the essential Oil blend). Currently i’m achieving a nice clear solution (possibly stable) by just removing these ingredients, hoping that adding Disodium Cocoamphodiacetate will also help.

Good point of the Polyquat-10. Im using the one available at makingcosmetics.

[phil92]

Hey @ketchito ,

I made a batch without the decyl glucoside and glucose sorb. I got a clear solution, this is the closest I’ve gotten to something stable, with that being said I think I can tell that there will be some gel-like chunk that will settle to the bottom eventually. What was your thought around removing these ingredients? seems like there’s definitely something there.

[phil92]

I sure can! Are you thinking they could be the issue here?

[phil92]

Hey @camel thanks for the feedback!

I totally hear you. Definitely a lot going on in there. I tend to get carried away haha.

I like the idea of removing everything and adding one thing at a time to see what’s causing it.

I do need some ingredients In there for marketing purposes, but also, I do want the shampoo to be hydrating and moisturizing without stripping too much oil from the hair. Any suggestions on ingredients to use? I’m definitely open to getting rid of the oils if it’s potentially causing the issue although I do need essential oils for fragrance.

Thanks!