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Ngarayeva001 As usual you are right TEA at 1.3% and the Carbomer is at 1%., also EDTA at 0.1%.
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Hi Ngarayeva001 I have a non Organic Aloe ferox gel which we sell over 600kg a year, in this gel i do use the the Carbomer INCI Acrylates C 10-30 Alkyl Acrylate crospolymer at 2% and my TEA at abour2.6% . This makes a amazing gel.
Why I use Aloe ferox petcin it is 100% Certified Organic via Eco Cert, I have gone to look at their requirements for Organic and Mark correct me if i am wrong but it states that to claim Organic your end product must have 95% organic ingredients and the other 5% Natural or Synthetic So can use the Carbomer but will adjust the pH with caustic soda flakes.(5ml to 100ml mix with water)BCBull I am also trying to souce the ingredients you suggested, but cannot believe the amout of time it takes to source these ingredients locally.
Any case will keep you updated
Thank you
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ngarayeva001 I have sourced A Sodium Hyaluronate and requested a sample, would love try this in my gel. But at a cost of $1.300 you were right it is to expensive.
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Sorry will try to source these, please see below question by supplier.
the normal Natrosol HHR – Tylose H 100 000 YP2.
I see it is a HHBR grade – are they able to send through the
spec so I can make sure on which exact grade from Tylose please? -
Thanks Sven, as a Mzani Formulator I definitely need all the advise and information i can get.. To be honest I had to go google this word.
ngarayeva001 You ask about the preservative being to high please look at the attachment. Just a bit worried that this preservative at this % will affect the thickness of my gel
BCBull i will also try and source Natrosol HHBR , My first formulation I used Euxyl PE 9010 at 1% worked very well, but makes my gel 99% Organic.
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Thank you , My gelling agent is the - Amorphophallus konjac root extract - but was told to lower this to 1%. will see if I can get a local supplier for HMW Hyaluronic acid.
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ngarayeva001 Thank you for your assistance so far, really appreciate it.
Let me try again…Aqua Di water 62.7%
Aloe ferox leaf extract 20%
Glycerine ( to what % would you suggest I lower this) 5%
Phenoxyethanol, Benzyl Alchol,Phenylpropanol or perfume 4.5%
Rose damacena flower oil in water ( this is a hydrosol) 4%
Amorphophallus Konjac Root Extract 2.8%
Enriocephalus Punctulatus water (hydrosol) 1%The pH of this is around 4 and I need to get closer to 7.
Can adjust this with Caustic soda of Potassium Hydroxide Fakes or pearls, but my suppliers of these ingredient suggested I use these at 1:1 ratio, then just add drop at a time till I get my correct pH.Sibech -
The product creates a film on the skin that starts peeling. Our company Organic Aloe is one of the leading suppliers of Aloe ferox raw ingredients in South Africa, http://www.organicaloe.co.za . In fact we started the fist Aloe Factory in South Africa in about 1984. I uses our Pectin/gelly ( 50:1 strengh/concentration?) for this folmulation - this ingredient is 100% Organically Certified.
I have used Solagum AX : Acacia Senegal Gum 2.5 &% with Xanthan Gum 0.5%
gave a runny & stringy Effect.
Then tried Solagum Tara : Caesalpinia Spinosa Gum 2.5% -0.5% but get that peeling effect
In my normal gel( not Organic) I use Carbopol Ultrez 21 amazing gel would like something similar.Just of Interest Aloe ferox Mill also known as the Cape Aloe .
Aloe Barbadensis Mill known as Aloe Vera
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Sorry this is what I have.
Aqua Di water 62.7%
Aloe Ferox leaf extract 20%
Glycerin 5%
Cosphagard Precare 4.5%
Damacena Flower oil 4%
Cosphaderm KG 2.8%
Eriocephalus Punctulatus water 1%This gel is lovely but as I said has a peeling effect. Why and what can i do to fix this?
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I need to adjust the pH but being a new at this I really dont know how, I have received samples of caustic soda pearls, caustic soda flakes and potassium hydroxide flakes, Was told that I can add this to an Organic product. Which would be the better product, and on a ratio of 1:1 does this mean 1 ml of caustic soda to 1 ml of water, and that every 1 drop of this solution would up the pH with 1%
Thank you